NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

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NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

Post by Html33 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:59 pm

Hello, right this video explains all that has happened.
I am looking for a replacement engine however is it an easy enough move to replace with a 600 engine?

Have just been looking around and i've found that the CBR600 engine between 1986 and 1992 ( i think ) Jellymould Models fit the frame.

The only adjusts that have to be made are the straps on the head need to be moved and mig welded back in place.

I've just found this engine, CBR600 F that fits in the year range and looks identical to my engine (although cant be sure) and was taken out of a CB1 400, and again after a little looking looks very simular in the frame.

Would this be an ideal replacement

Would any adjustments need to be changed to loom?
Is it a stright fit and then just adjust the top head mounts?
I guess i would need the CDI, and can this just plug stright into the loom?

Anyone with experence on this who could shed some light would be awesome, thanks.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-CBR600- ... 25796385e1




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Re: NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

Post by thunderace » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:32 pm

Ideally you want the complete 600 loom as well :peace:
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Re: NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

Post by t513 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:03 pm

Let me know how this goes mate, I'm tempted to put a 600 engine in my spare frame ;)

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Re: NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

Post by petrolhead19 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:25 pm

I know Leapord_pagan has a nc23 hybrid so have a word with her.
Link to her thread: viewtopic.php?f=69&t=28787

lloydiecbr is another guy that has done the conversion so maybe he will have some tips.

There are a few others done it aswell, so im sure they will help you out
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Re: NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

Post by leopard_pagan » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:13 am

get the lump, loom & CDI from the 600 donor bike.. basically get as much as you can from the 600 as you can inc Carbs.

I bought my project already frame adjusted but with a shagged 600 lump, i had to strip the lot off & start again. sadly funds & time have hampered the project the last 6-8 months.

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Re: NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

Post by lloydiecbr » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:47 pm

Sorry for the late reply .
As l,p said you will need all the 600 bits and you need to think of it as your reframing the 600 .so you will need
And a lot of time
Engine electrics carbs exhaust

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Re: NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

Post by Davez29 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:37 pm

maybe a bit more than your planning but here is a link to a magazine article in a pdf along those lines. I also have an article on a 23 with a fireblade engine.

here: http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1924641 ... pm-6-8-meg

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Re: NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

Post by leopard_pagan » Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:24 pm

My donor lump came with original carbs still on & i have left em on.. bought a CBR6 set of pipes.
what bolts ON the frame/front end is CBR400
what goes/bolts IN the frame is CBR600
so buy what you need based on that..

article is a good read.

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Re: NC23 CBR400 Bottom end blown - 600 Replacement? [VIDEO]

Post by w00dzy » Sat May 11, 2013 6:44 pm

Hello all! Just doing a bit of lurking as you do..

I did the conversion as well.. sorry to hear about your engine..

You were lucky it didnt fire up and spit another bit of metal out at you lol!

Heres my thread.. dont know whats up with the pics..

If you need any help let me know.

http://honda-forums.com/forum/index.php ... 1&&start=0

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