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Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:06 pm
by marcus57
After some advice on nc30 carb set ups for my track bike .

Spec is pretty standard , quitening gears removed , total loss , full micron .

I guess my options are

Re jet standard for system

Nc30 hrc , expensive ?

Nc30 carbs with tyga carbon airbox

Nc35 jetted to suit

Nc ram air set up .

I don't want to spend a fortune but wouldn't mind gaining a few bhp , what's the best bet .

Re: Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:08 pm
by alexwitham
If you want a few bhp, you can rule out a rejet and larger airbox/foam filter etc. That's what I run and it's set up perfectly, I got 1.1bhp extra.

Re: Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:50 pm
by VFRkieran
alexwitham wrote:If you want a few bhp, you can rule out a rejet and larger airbox/foam filter etc. That's what I run and it's set up perfectly, I got 1.1bhp extra.

Is that with the full tyga system Alex? Id have thought there would be a little more to be gained with a full system thats set up right, makes me wonder what i can squeeze out of my JHA system with standard intake.


Marcus didnt the Micron systems come with setup instructions for the carbs, airbox etc? Im sure i read somewhere that they do, id think that would be a good start point to see if you get any improvements over what you have now.

Re: Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:00 am
by alexwitham
1.1bhp extra was for the larger box and foam filter, larger jets and drilled slides.

I got about 5 extra all inclusive.

Re: Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:01 am
by marcus57
VFRkieran wrote:
alexwitham wrote:If you want a few bhp, you can rule out a rejet and larger airbox/foam filter etc. That's what I run and it's set up perfectly, I got 1.1bhp extra.

Is that with the full tyga system Alex? Id have thought there would be a little more to be gained with a full system thats set up right, makes me wonder what i can squeeze out of my JHA system with standard intake.


Marcus didnt the Micron systems come with setup instructions for the carbs, airbox etc? Im sure i read somewhere that they do, id think that would be a good start point to see if you get any improvements over what you have now.
No the micron came on a bike i bought

Re: Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:09 am
by VFRkieran
@ Alex 5bhp extra sounds pretty reasonable for a full system setup to suit ill be pretty pleased if i can get that much with mine.

Marcus im sure i read it in the exhaust thread, off the top of my head it might have been Aly who mentioned the setup instructions, im sure he used to have one at least!


Edit: here we go i found it Hunter posted these instructions a long time ago in the zorst thread.

Carburation.
Two induction arrangments are covered here:
1 retaining the standard air box but removing the air filter and opening the inlet area of the box to 82x55mm.
2 Using the honda carburettor kit but retaining standard bellmouths.
boyh arrangments are with the standard camshafts.


1 With standard air box with enlarged inlet area increase main jet size 125 front and 122 rear.

2 Using Honda carburettor Kit including short Bellmouths

recommended settings Pilot jet 38
needle 8zj
main jet 200 (2.0mm drill)

Re: Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:25 am
by marcus57
VFRkieran wrote:@ Alex 5bhp extra sounds pretty reasonable for a full system setup to suit ill be pretty pleased if i can get that much with mine.

Marcus im sure i read it in the exhaust thread, off the top of my head it might have been Aly who mentioned the setup instructions, im sure he used to have one at least!


Edit: here we go i found it Hunter posted these instructions a long time ago in the zorst thread.

Carburation.
Two induction arrangments are covered here:
1 retaining the standard air box but removing the air filter and opening the inlet area of the box to 82x55mm.
2 Using the honda carburettor kit but retaining standard bellmouths.
boyh arrangments are with the standard camshafts.


1 With standard air box with enlarged inlet area increase main jet size 125 front and 122 rear.

2 Using Honda carburettor Kit including short Bellmouths

recommended settings Pilot jet 38
needle 8zj
main jet 200 (2.0mm drill)
:up: cheers for that , i assume that by hrc it means open airbox no filter ect ect.

Isnt a 200 main jet huge?

Re: Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:40 am
by VFRkieran
No worries mate, i assume it does mean the full open airbox and all the bells and whisles you can buy from Rick o.

I thought the same about the main jet but thats copied directly from the thread, perhaps somebody else can clear that up for us seems massively rich to me though.

Re: Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:37 am
by Cammo
The nc30 HRC open carb setup is a simple cheap route to a few more hp over using an air box and filter and really works well on the track.

You'll need all the parts to get it to work correctly: velocity stacks, needles, pilot & main jets and emulsion tubes. Rick O sells replicas of the whole lot.

Don't drill main jets out, buy the correct sized keihin jets, you'll need around 145's for nc30 HRC carbs.

Re: Nc30 carb set ups for track bike, advice wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:30 am
by scooble
how do you enlarge the inlet area - is it simply a case of making the hole bigger?