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Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:56 pm
by Tubbygit
Have just bought a full stainless system (make unknown) off e-bay for my gullarm streetfighter and am considering trying something a bit different

The link pipe is a 50mm diameter slip on type with spring loops. It came with a standard end can that has a slip-on & spring loops adapter fitted (v-handy for MOT time :grin: ).

What I'm considering is getting a universal DB killer (a 47mm / 48 mm diameter one for big bore race cans) and fitting it in the end of the link pipe.
My thought is that I could then run the bike with no end can (should look awesome and shouldn't be insanely loud).
I don't mind a bit of noise (it's handy for not getting splattered on the city commute), but I don't want something that the boys in blue will chase me for :whistle:

Obviously there may well be some issues getting it to run right but does anyone know of any other potential issues :?:

BTW: This is for my winter bike, so any suggestions need to be made with the fact that I don't want to spend lots of money.

Re: Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:01 pm
by CMSMJ1
It won't work...probably..and if it does, I doubt as well as a std setup..

but try it and see..you'll have to rejet for it but the lack of back pressure and pipe length will be an issue.

There is a reason systems are as long as they are and if you end up shortening one by a quarter then you are looking for trouble

It will look cool and sound awesome though so take some vids...

Re: Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:16 pm
by Tubbygit
Thanks mate, will do on the vids :mrgreen:

Would the presence of a baffle not provide some of the back pressure that the can would normally provide?
What I'm hoping for is that it should sound and perform like I had an unbaffled race can on the bike

I understand the need for back pressure, is the need for the system to be a certain length a separate thing or can it be compensated for by the baffle?

Re: Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:39 pm
by lloydspencer
I took my end can off and started the bike and took it up the road and back once.

There were 3 things I found out

1. It was stupid loud,
2. It didn't sound that good
3. There was a loss of power

If I was you I would buy a good quality slip on can and keep the standard can for mot's.

You will get bored of an obscenely loud exhaust on a commute.

Plus it will sound better

Re: Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:57 am
by BillingCBR
my '23 with stainless pipes, didn't notice any power decrease, but gave me a headache after riding it for less than 5 miles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK9u1vb5mFI

Re: Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:05 pm
by Wozza
What is this talk of back-pressure?! Resistance to flow is only a bad thing for four-stroke performance.

Tubbygit - your idea will work fine provided you get the fuelling set up properly. It won't be the best option for performance since the baffle will reduce gas flow, but I don't think that's what you're going for. The lack of a (race) can will also alter the performance due to the change in tailpipe length, but I doubt noticeably.

Re: Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:56 pm
by Tubbygit
Gave it a go this afternoon, it does look awesome (pics to follow), and the performance is ok, seems to have lost a bit of torque but otherwise no real concerns (top speed with my fat arse onboard seems about the same).

However there is a bit of a problem with the noise: it's just too loud even with a baffle. Don't get me wrong it sounds awesome, but it's also an open invite to get nicked :roll:

May be able to get a more effective baffle off fleabay (it's not like they're expensive), but may also just try to get hold of a stubby can to go on there.

Re: Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:00 am
by Wozza
What about a nice small can like these?:
http://www.spengineering.co.uk/store/slipons.htm

Re: Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:18 pm
by Tubbygit
Those look fairly spot on, bit pricy for the budgetcycle (was thinking something cheap & 2nd hand).

Oh well, no need to rush, will monitor ebay for a bargain :)

Re: Foolish exhaust idea for my NC29

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:20 pm
by Tubbygit
Those look fairly spot on, bit pricy for the budgetcycle (was thinking something cheap & 2nd hand).

Oh well, no need to rush, will monitor ebay for a bargain :)