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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by Cammo » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:34 am

Them's racing words!

I'd be there lapping in the high 40's to show you both up (2 min 40's :oops: ) but I have other committments.
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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by stimpy » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:24 am

lol dan,i'll come down to watch,i havnt raced this year due to health issues
me lil nc23's in retirement, but look forward to giving it a fang at somepoint with the new engine mods
however,im putting together a 29 in stock form to race in the proposed "std"class they are hopeing to have,
so hope to get out and cut sum laps at least at some point this year and race again next year
good luck dude
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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by yeurman » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:08 pm

Stimpy,
thank you for that well thought out and researched reply, I will take it under consideration.... my a**e!!!! :grin: The NC29 is a "cool" and "fast" race bike proven by many racers with many clubs.... never, I say NEVER GO TO THE DARK SIDE...:evil: The only "green" thing on my bike is my Irish A**E. Get yourself down to a BEMSEE meeting and see its not an all ZXR affair.. Let the abuse start.. :whistle: Col

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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by stimpy » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:31 pm

yeurman wrote:Stimpy,
thank you for that well thought out and researched reply, I will take it under consideration.... my a**e!!!! :grin: The NC29 is a "cool" and "fast" race bike proven by many racers with many clubs.... never, I say NEVER GO TO THE DARK SIDE...:evil: The only "green" thing on my bike is my Irish A**E. Get yourself down to a BEMSEE meeting and see its not an all ZXR affair.. Let the abuse start.. :whistle: Col
i race an older cbr even...the triarm,and its quick for what it is...but its no match for the rockets here.
the fzr thats running here is blisteringly quick!
and anyways,1 of our greybike members here in aus went to watch you lot...reckons you guys would have an issue getting into our top ten
....thats how u start the abuse man muhahaha
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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by dannc29 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:07 am

stimpy, my 29's at a point now where tozzers 400 couldn't or atleast struggles to draft me down the straight. from what iv'e been told he pulled out but just sat there. got me under brakes though but parked it hard in the middle of the corner, and i really needed to go another tooth lower on the rear as it was revving 15k plus without a draft. morgan park in qld should be a nice test as its not a sheer hp track. i think the overall package of my bike now should be able to push the leading zxr's and fzr. maybe not the fzr at PI but any other track and i think i'll have a chance.

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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by greggo » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:14 am

Tozzer is a cunning bugger on the track. I'd bet good money that if he parked it in the corner in front of you, it was deliberate...

I rode one of the fizzers this weekend at PI. Mixed feelings. Didn't place well at all. Couldn't be more different to the CBR...not my cup of tea...

Also after splitting my cases and seeing the work done on the crank in my current engine I would like to add my bike is a 400 (barely) modified. If i'd paid someone to do the crank myself i'd be disappointed. My new crank is nearly finished and is a somewhat different kettle of fish...if I had a guess from what we discussed at MAc Park Dan, my current engine is half way between yours and completely stock.

As for modern body work, the downside I found out at the weekend, is some modern bodywork gives the 400 a bigger side profile. Perfect for parasailing your bike around phillip island. :Bmods:

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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by dannc29 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:57 am

i wouldn't say it was delibrate more like he had too park it, i went fairly late on the brakes and i was actually suprised that he came up the inside as i usually have a good 1/2 bike length under brakes on him. he just entered too fast and to keep the line needed to slow it right down. was a clean pass like usual.

did you ride fox's fast fzr? how'd it go powerwise compared to the 29?

i wouldn't expect to gain much hp from the crank. its more that it spins up faster and delivers the power alot faster. as i found out in damp conditions it isn't a great thing as it was deffinently a light switch. i lost count how many times i almost highsided myself.

PI is like that with the wind, even with std fairings it can though you off the track.

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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by greggo » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:13 pm

The fizzer i rode wasn't one of their hottest, but it was a decent engine, mild crank, skimmed head, mild porting (apparently) and flatslides (no airbox and not quite right).

Something not quite right with the carburation, even though it was pulling fairly cleanly, it was reluctant to rev out, i think with a practice day and a box of bits (or a dyno) it would be much better. Although it could have been partly the throttle, which was the heaviest throttle i've ever had to turn. 6 laps and the arm was feeling it. Whoever put the carbs together has wound the return spring around at least one full wind extra and cut off the return cable holder. Mad sod.

I would say power wise to my NC29 about the same, but faster revving and a bit more tractable down low. Definitely faster than a completely stock FZR, as it was able to pull one in even though it had a head start onto the straight of 30-40 metres (at a guess).

The brakes were the best bit though.

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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by dannc29 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:03 pm

interesting, how did it handle?

i wouldn't mind throwing a leg over the rocket ship fzr.

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Re: modern body work/fairings

Post by greggo » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:57 pm

Handling was good. Good fast steering and stable even in the high speed turns. My first impression was a bike that was better than the CBR under brakes in the first half of the turn, and on a par on the exit. Hard to say how much of that was set up though. It wasn't until I had a fresh front slick on in the last race of the day I was able to feel the lack of rebound on the front end.

I don't like the bridgestones feel at lean, and was riding on one of those supersport front tyres (which was goosed - tore to shreds at the island), so it's a bit hard to be 100%. I would consider owning one though, the one I rode had a stock R6 rear shock, and late model R6 fork internals, good feel - heaps better than the TM front and rear i've had - and it felt like a good package as a starting point.

I'd whack my dunlops on, get the throttle sorted, an airbox and some dyno time and then i'd kick my own arse I reckon.

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