Wheel bearing?

Moore · Post by **Moore** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:14 pm

Well ARSEY30, You deserve these..

, Because this factor alone Proves a point of how HELPFULL this site is to those who dont have as much experience or knowledge as other 400Greybike users!!!

PAUL is still a 100% right though!!! Because the Mechanic clearly didnt have a clue

Post by **paul nc 24** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:33 pm

[quote="arsey30"]But Honda say different.
Thanks for that arsey!
please dont take this the wrong way who am i to argue with the good book from mr honda.
that is probably the way the mechanic chose to refit the wheel and who am i to argue with him afterall he is a profesional who you pay good money to and put your trust and faith in
now in my defence rich was stumped in to why his bearings were fucked after he took his bike in and paidfor the work to be undertaken and from reading that i gave my honest answer to his question.In his reply he pointed out your highlighted method was chosen by the mechanic (what his torque settings were we will never know and frankly i dont care.) I have pointed out what i have learned myself through trial and error (you learn quickly from the errors) as i have done the same thing myself ie:fucked my own bearings up using that method.
So thats the reason for going against the manual's instuctions and the reason this part of the site is here if not we would just have a link to ebay where you could buy the manual for around £5 on disc or £20 from halfords in hardback allthough it won't turn the spanners for you!

just trying to be helpful not rewrite the manual just as others have helped me on here when reading a manual does not help or you've paid for shit work!
is that ok.

arsey30 · Post by **arsey30** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:59 pm

I follow the Honda workshop manual, unless, like you something does not seem to work, then I investigate further.

I fit my wheel as per the book instructions.
There is a long spacer within the centre of the hub between the 2 bearing inners to prevent preloading the bearing when the axle nut is tightened.

If there is a problem , maybe the bearings are not right home in the hub, or a problem with the spacer.

This can be checked by gradually tightening the bolt to see if the wheel binds, if so investigate further.
If the R/H fork is not pulled up hard against the collar, the wheel is free to move from side to side.

This site is great to exchange information, and has been useful to me, I am not looking to argue with you , but to pass try to help out others, just as you do.
Dave.

rich1988 · Post by **rich1988** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:02 pm

Its possible the spacers were put back wrong? he didnt put them down in the order they came out (even I would ave done that) so would the spacers being the wrong way round cause the damage?

Moore · Post by **Moore** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:19 pm

You took the words right out of my typing finger Paul!
Its the same story from me mate..
I was just trying to give Rich that little more confidence for using this website eh!
Save his self some £££s and get to learn about other peoples "400 experiences" what ever it maybe!!!!

arsey30 · Post by **arsey30** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:36 pm

rich1988 wrote:Its possible the spacers were put back wrong? he didnt put them down in the order they came out (even I would ave done that) so would the spacers being the wrong way round cause the damage?

No, the wheel offset would be wrong the wheel may touch the fork and disc not line up with caliper.

Get him to tighten the bolt slowly to see if the wheel starts to bind, if so something is wrong, if the old bearings were not pressed fully home, the problem will clear with new ones.
If the problem persists, then just nip up the bolt so the wheel is still free and then tighten the clamp bolts, [the way Paul suggested] to get you home to further investigate.

Dave.

Post by **paul nc 24** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:13 pm

still doing my best not to offend but you have just used an example yourself dave nowhere in the manual does it give the advice you have just added.
its experiance!the sort we all give out trying to help others who post these questions.
sorry if my post was a bit blunt but i thought you was being a bit..

... (arsey)
sorry dave couln't resist

cheers paul.

arsey30 · Post by **arsey30** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:29 pm

Offend away, I am trying to help out.
I was giving a "get you home" advice, that's all, not a workshop proceedure.

arsey 30 refers to my bike not me, I am over twice that age. :-)

Dave.

rich1988 · Post by **rich1988** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:29 pm

Moore wrote:
You took the words right out of my typing finger Paul!
Its the same story from me mate..
I was just trying to give Rich that little more confidence for using this website eh!
Save his self some £££s and get to learn about other peoples "400 experiences" what ever it maybe!!!!

Got enough smileys there :D

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Post by **paul nc 24** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:40 pm

sorry dave i was on about this post

[quote="arsey30"]I follow the Honda workshop manual, unless, like you something does not seem to work, then I investigate further.

I fit my wheel as per the book instructions.
There is a long spacer within the centre of the hub between the 2 bearing inners to prevent preloading the bearing when the axle nut is tightened.

If there is a problem , maybe the bearings are not right home in the hub, or a problem with the spacer.

This can be checked by gradually tightening the bolt to see if the wheel binds, if so investigate further.
If the R/H fork is not pulled up hard against the collar, the wheel is free to move from side to side.

I could not agree more with what your saying.
my point being its not all black and white.(ie: in the book)
just trying to pass on advice like your good self.

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