Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Forum rules
Please can you post items for sale or wanted in the correct For Sale section. Items / bikes for sale here will be removed without warning. Reasons for this are in the FAQ. Thanks
User avatar
benny
NWAA Supporter
NWAA Supporter
Posts: 623
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:36 pm
Bike owned: NC30 (track), ZX-9R (road)
Location: Nottinghamshire
Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by benny »

So I need help identifying this master cylinder, it was incorrectly listed on ebay as off a 400 but as it's 5/8" this isn't correct (I need a 5/8" for my fireblade callipers though) would liek to know what rebuild kit i would need or what rebuild kit would be compatible. (further questions after the photos)
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Also does anybody know how to get this off? It had a rubber cover and circlip on top, I removed the circlip and it still wont budge. Also where can i get the bit of tube that goes from this to a reservoir?
Image
Scott also mentioned the CBR900 kit but the photo on we moto looks like a different piston.
Image
Image
BRS Racing for up to date bike build and race results.
TT Zero for the electric Superbike build.
DM104 for the road race team.
User avatar
speedy231278
NWAA Supporter
NWAA Supporter
Posts: 1549
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:58 am
Bike owned: RVF400, TZR125, ZXR750R
Re: Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by speedy231278 »

The small tube may well just be very well stuck. According to the parts diagram, after you have removed the rubber seal and the circlip, the only thing other than the tube in the hole is the o-ring under it.

http://www.carlsalter.com/pdfs/Honda_92 ... awings.pdf

This does assume this is a 929 Blade m/c you have, and that there's no difference between that and other 5/8" ones....
Image
User avatar
gavins
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Posts: 133
Joined: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:45 pm
Bike owned: NC30, ER6f, K5 750
Location: Worthing, West Sussex
Re: Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by gavins »

The NC23 Tri Arm M/C repair kit looks pretty close to me:

Image

http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CBR4 ... rt_166033/

Can anyone confirm the NC23 M/C size? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
User avatar
benny
NWAA Supporter
NWAA Supporter
Posts: 623
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:36 pm
Bike owned: NC30 (track), ZX-9R (road)
Location: Nottinghamshire
Re: Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by benny »

gavins wrote:The NC23 Tri Arm M/C repair kit looks pretty close to me:

Image

http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CBR4 ... rt_166033/

Can anyone confirm the NC23 M/C size? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
That looks exactly like it! Bump for anyone knowing NC23 M/C size?
BRS Racing for up to date bike build and race results.
TT Zero for the electric Superbike build.
DM104 for the road race team.
User avatar
CMSMJ1
Moderators
Moderators
Posts: 7161
Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 9:42 am
Bike owned: NC30-No9
Location: Chesterfield, United Kingdom
Re: Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by CMSMJ1 »

I don't reckon they are 5/8

I reckon that is an old blade one as they are deffo 5/8.

End of the day you are after a NIssin 5/8 repair kit, not a bike model specific one
IMPERATOR REX ANGLORUM

The V4 is the law..

NC30 - No9 - my old mate
User avatar
speedy231278
NWAA Supporter
NWAA Supporter
Posts: 1549
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:58 am
Bike owned: RVF400, TZR125, ZXR750R
Re: Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by speedy231278 »

Assuming Honda only used one type of 5/8" Nissin m/c at that time? I think the idea of the original post is that the parentage of this m/c is questionable. If Nissin/Honda only made/used one unit of this type for the size stated, then there will only be one type of repair kit. I'd be slightly concerned about ordering a kit without being completely confident that all of them were the same internally. You know what sod's law says!
Image
User avatar
speedy231278
NWAA Supporter
NWAA Supporter
Posts: 1549
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:58 am
Bike owned: RVF400, TZR125, ZXR750R
Re: Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by speedy231278 »

benny wrote:
gavins wrote:The NC23 Tri Arm M/C repair kit looks pretty close to me:

Image

http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CBR4 ... rt_166033/

Can anyone confirm the NC23 M/C size? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
That looks exactly like it! Bump for anyone knowing NC23 M/C size?
According to a 23 front on eBay from a breaker, it's 1/2".
Image
User avatar
CMSMJ1
Moderators
Moderators
Posts: 7161
Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 9:42 am
Bike owned: NC30-No9
Location: Chesterfield, United Kingdom
Re: Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by CMSMJ1 »

speedy231278 wrote:Assuming Honda only used one type of 5/8" Nissin m/c at that time? I think the idea of the original post is that the parentage of this m/c is questionable. If Nissin/Honda only made/used one unit of this type for the size stated, then there will only be one type of repair kit. I'd be slightly concerned about ordering a kit without being completely confident that all of them were the same internally. You know what sod's law says!

Agree with you to a point - but the NIssin m/c has no idea what bike it is on and they are only listed on ebay for specific bikes as people these days are too dumb to ask or know about the bike.


I would say that all 5/8 mc of a certain age on Hondas will all take the same kit from Nissin.
IMPERATOR REX ANGLORUM

The V4 is the law..

NC30 - No9 - my old mate
User avatar
porndoguk
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Posts: 3293
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:17 pm
Bike owned: NC30
Location: Middle England
Contact:
Re: Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by porndoguk »

CMSMJ1 wrote:I don't reckon they are 5/8

I reckon that is an old blade one as they are deffo 5/8.

End of the day you are after a NIssin 5/8 repair kit, not a bike model specific one
^ THAT ^

as i said on FB the RC30 was also a 5/8 MC

I dont have any pics to share as i didnt take any but i dont recall the plunger/piston beong so short
NC30 & NC23 33BHP Restrictors For Sale
£25 Inc P&P and donation to 400GB PM for more details


http://www.bikerstraining.com

Like us on Facebook for more information - First Bike on Scene - Emergency Response Skills - UK
User avatar
gavins
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Posts: 133
Joined: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:45 pm
Bike owned: NC30, ER6f, K5 750
Location: Worthing, West Sussex
Re: Front master cylinder help - identify and service

Post by gavins »

Early (93-98) blade M/C repair kit, same part number as RC30 etc.

Image

http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CBR9 ... art_45620/

As long as the piston is 5/8" in diameter it shouldn't be an issue.

Post Reply