HID QUESTION
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HID QUESTION
Hello everyone, Im new to this forum. This topic has probably been covered elsewhere, Ive invested in a 1990 H VFR400 NC30. Its an import and has the "wonderful" japanese 35/60w h4 bulbs. Im planning on getting some HID's for this machine.
But my main question is will i require a relay? I know ill have to modify the headlight unit to accept a normal h4 bulb, but if i was fitting HIGHER WATTAGE h4 bulbs id require to fit a relay on the low bram side to prevent switch burning, is this the same case for fitting a HID kits to the NC30. Please help people, and is there any hid kits you would recommend? Would a set of car H4 Hi/Lo hids be suitable?.
But my main question is will i require a relay? I know ill have to modify the headlight unit to accept a normal h4 bulb, but if i was fitting HIGHER WATTAGE h4 bulbs id require to fit a relay on the low bram side to prevent switch burning, is this the same case for fitting a HID kits to the NC30. Please help people, and is there any hid kits you would recommend? Would a set of car H4 Hi/Lo hids be suitable?.
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Re: HID QUESTION
A HID unit on this bike requires a a lot of modification to the housing of the original bulb holder... the hi/low h4 HID lights are huge! they have internal ballast which gives it its gigantic size. and no u will not require a relay for HID... common HID used in motorcycles are in fact 35w... which a lot less than your normal Halogen bulbs which are 55W..
but don't be confused, the HID is still much much brighter. so that's that out of the way, ( no relay needed ) but your main problem is the fact that it is HUGE... if you don't want any HIGH beam and only use the bike in LOW beam then you sure can use the H4 HID set, which is H4 housing and connection, BUT with no high beam capabilities. i used to have a normal set of H4 HID for my old YZF-R125, and MY GOD! was it bright. i never even needed to use my bike in high beam. that's how good it was. i had the 8000k temp range, which was bright white with a tint of blue.
anyway here is a picture of the Hi/Lo H4 HID unit...

if you find a way to successfully install this to you NC30... make sure you let me know
and here is the normal h4 HID ( no high beam capability )


but don't be confused, the HID is still much much brighter. so that's that out of the way, ( no relay needed ) but your main problem is the fact that it is HUGE... if you don't want any HIGH beam and only use the bike in LOW beam then you sure can use the H4 HID set, which is H4 housing and connection, BUT with no high beam capabilities. i used to have a normal set of H4 HID for my old YZF-R125, and MY GOD! was it bright. i never even needed to use my bike in high beam. that's how good it was. i had the 8000k temp range, which was bright white with a tint of blue.
anyway here is a picture of the Hi/Lo H4 HID unit...

if you find a way to successfully install this to you NC30... make sure you let me know

and here is the normal h4 HID ( no high beam capability )


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Re: HID QUESTION
oh, and Welcome!
, by the way, im one of those light freaks! :D i love getting the best looking and brighest lights for my bikes... and i am still working on a way to fit one of those HID on the bike WITH hi/lo capabilities. so IF i do, i shall let you know 


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Re: HID QUESTION
I have a set of hi/lo HID on one of my NC30s. TBH if I had it to do again I would figure out a way to use projectors. The reflectors of the stock NC30 headlight scatters the light so much it is actually pretty hard to see.




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Re: HID QUESTION
MOT fail in the UK though eh?
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The V4 is the law..
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Re: HID QUESTION
yup mot failure from early this year sometime as was said the reflectors on normal lamps throw the light all over the shop. bulb upgrades along the lines of osram nightbreakers phillips extreme etc may be an easier and less expensive option fitted them to a vw van and wifes car and are a vast improvement over standard h4 bulbs.
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Re: HID QUESTION
I would think.
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Yes much better. Philips Xtreeme are awesome.davethetrucker wrote:yup mot failure from early this year sometime as was said the reflectors on normal lamps throw the light all over the shop. bulb upgrades along the lines of osram nightbreakers phillips extreme etc may be an easier and less expensive option fitted them to a vw van and wifes car and are a vast improvement over standard h4 bulbs.
If you are intent on doing it, at least use proper projector housings, you'll get a proper beam then that you can align.
It's been posted many times but a bad beam, while it might feel 'safer' is actualy dangourous.
Drive a car around with the foglights on at speed and you might feel 'safe' becuase the foreground is lit up, but this makes your eyes close down as theres a lot of light.. consequently you dont' see things as well in the distance, a sharp bend in a dark road etc is much much easier to miss.
on a bike which can go a lot faster and accellerate quicker than most cars its' very dangoueros.
Wihtout going into the bad beam affecting other drivers, insurance validty et al.
Wouldn't bother. Good set of H4's should be more than enough.. I ride down some of the darkest narrow pot-hole lanes ever with the H4R 35watts and there fine. It's only when you think they are bad you start to believe it.
xivlia wrote:i dont go fast on this bike so really do not need a rear brake.. /
vic-vtrvfr wrote:Ask xivlia for help, he's tackled just about every problem u could think of...
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Re: HID QUESTION
vfrman wrote:I have a set of hi/lo HID on one of my NC30s. TBH if I had it to do again I would figure out a way to use projectors. The reflectors of the stock NC30 headlight scatters the light so much it is actually pretty hard to see.
holly crap :D i never knew someone got a set of hi/lo hid on this bike... can you link me the HID set ur using, id like to buy one xD
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HID QUESTION
Here you go. I bought a pair. http://www.xtralights.com/xetronicdigit ... ingle.aspx