alarm problem

[marti]

To cut a long story short. I have a meta 357t v2 fitted to bike 5yrs ago.
It stopped responding to fob, tried new batteries and new fob, no joy.
Tried to follow recode sequence {abacus alarms} no joy.
I can enter pincode ok and alarm disarms then switch ignition on/off 3 times. No beep so no go.
Any ideas?

[kevprojex]

Take it off and bin it, most alarms last about 3-4 years before they start to play up . i have removed lots of alarms that have caused missfires and starting problems , im not a big fan of alarms more trouble than they are worth.

[CRM]

+1
had a new datatool system 3 fitted to my 916 back in 03 and it was nothing but hassle. i got 6 months before it died and it was 6 months too long. caused all sorts of odd issues and on a Ducati thats already a losing battle.
replaced the loom with a new one and got rid of the datatool once and for all.
the cost saving on insurance was around £20 if i recall, and i would have happily paid £200 more to be rid of the piece of shit from day one for all the hassle it caused.

loom on the 916 has never given me a moment of grief since*
























*which is more than can be said for the 2 new rectifiers, air flow sensor, clock sub loom, P1.6M ECU, rear brake light switch.
and coupled with the rebuilt engine, BP subframe, aftermarket parts, 5 spokes etc etc its like triggers broom and not much left is from 1995

[Neosophist]

+1

*which is more than can be said for the 2 new rectifiers, air flow sensor, clock sub loom, P1.6M ECU, rear brake light switch.
and coupled with the rebuilt engine, BP subframe, aftermarket parts, 5 spokes etc etc its like triggers broom and not much left is from 1995

Oh dear, sounds pricey! So I take it pretty much anything electrical on the bike has failed at some point!

Who'd have thought an Italian bike would have duff electrics

[CRM]

you would think, but really its no worse than a NC really.
one advantage to the ducati loom is that it comes in snap in sections, so you can replace sections of the loom without stripping the bike. very quick and easy - which is handy when the rectifier section burns out every 2 years if using the original 2 wire AC rectifire and not changed to a later type which are pretty well sorted (like fitting the R6 unit to a NC)
the air flow sensor was unlucky, clock section needed changing as i went from a P8 ecu to the 1.6 for the bp subframe, and as such the tacho and loom are slightly different so not exactly a failure as such.
parts are as cheap and plentiful as NC's so apart from the main service which most will get a dealer too they are not too bad on the old desmo engined bikes

[Dynamohum]

had a similar problem with a meta alarm on my old rrx fireblade it totally shit itself imobilising the bike eventually got it removed and binned completely. the datatool alarm i had on a cb13 used to play up every now and then and would only disarm using the pin code . must say it was not amusing listening for audible beeps in rush hour traffic in bilbao as has been said most bike alarms have a shelf life living in a hostile enviroment on a bike hot/cold/damp etc. best thing to do is get it removed and if you must have a alarm get one of the non soldered into loom types cyclone or similar.

[Neosophist]

you would think, but really its no worse than a NC really.
one advantage to the ducati loom is that it comes in snap in sections, so you can replace sections of the loom without stripping the bike. very quick and easy - which is handy when the rectifier section burns out every 2 years if using the original 2 wire AC rectifire and not changed to a later type which are pretty well sorted (like fitting the R6 unit to a NC)
the air flow sensor was unlucky, clock section needed changing as i went from a P8 ecu to the 1.6 for the bp subframe, and as such the tacho and loom are slightly different so not exactly a failure as such.
parts are as cheap and plentiful as NC's so apart from the main service which most will get a dealer too they are not too bad on the old desmo engined bikes

Yeah I know, I was just making a (crappy) all Italian bikes have crap electrics comment!

Old bikes are always money pits.. parts wear out naturally and some bikes just have bad design issues.

[CRM]

i will say though the mille i had was really good electrically. loom was bound nicely and routed well, and of suitable guage wire.
i know ducati's were known for having there wiring made by sicilian peasants, but the 999 onward bikes seem to be spot on.
the old desmo powered bikes were a bit problematic if not kept on top of though thats a fact.

[marti]

Thanks guys, think ill bin it, but id better check with my insurane.

[marti]

If i remove my alarm, my insurance would be invalid or i could pay an extra £77 premium!
New alarm off ebay £100.
Anyway, rang meta systems who put me on to a guy called basil,
who told me to put the pincode in then turn the ignition off/on x3 as quick as possible and not wait for all the idiot lights to come on each time.
It bloody well worked! Got a beep, carried on with sequence. Sorted