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Re: nc30 twin sided swing arm
dont know if thats said as a joke? but wikipedia isnt an official source of info, allthough it is handy to use for basic advice i wouldnt believe everything, its edited by people like me and you by the public not experts or scientists,Bike_Nut wrote:Fact: if it's on Wiki it's fact!Neosophist wrote:
I wouldnt believe everything on wikipedia.. that was probably written by an NC30 owner with rose tinted glasses...![]()
its kinda like reading the sun, allthough its informative and a great way of killing time, i wouldnt believe all the stories you read.
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Re: nc30 twin sided swing arm
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Wikipedia
Fact!
Maybe the following link will help those struggling with facts
http://www.flixster.com/quizzes/bear-facts
sorry, will stop now
Fact!
Maybe the following link will help those struggling with facts
http://www.flixster.com/quizzes/bear-facts
sorry, will stop now
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im sorry but im still missing the point, if you want to point out/at the important FACTS quote them,Bike_Nut wrote:http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Wikipedia
Fact!
Maybe the following link will help those struggling with facts
http://www.flixster.com/quizzes/bear-facts
sorry, will stop now
dont make me search for them, becuase taking a quiz about brown bears isnt making anything clear to me?
because as far as im concerned if im curious about something ill research it and i wont quote one persons thinking ill get a collection of opinions and then conjure my own opinion or outcome. wikipedia is a great website but as i previously said it no different about personaly opion or that of a bullshit story from a 10 a penny journo'
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Re: nc30 twin sided swing arm
Sorry, just my warped scense of humour.
You definately cant trust everything you read on the net, just like many books contain errors and opinions. Wiki is better than it used to be as it is moderated and peer reviewed now.
I love the single sided swing arm as I can change wheels without getting my hands oily from the chain or struggling to get the disk into the caliper which is why it was developed for endurance racing but I guess ultimate performance is worse than conventional otherwise it would be used in motogp. However, with my riding skills being the reason I am slow and not the bike I guess all that matters is which you prefer.
You definately cant trust everything you read on the net, just like many books contain errors and opinions. Wiki is better than it used to be as it is moderated and peer reviewed now.
I love the single sided swing arm as I can change wheels without getting my hands oily from the chain or struggling to get the disk into the caliper which is why it was developed for endurance racing but I guess ultimate performance is worse than conventional otherwise it would be used in motogp. However, with my riding skills being the reason I am slow and not the bike I guess all that matters is which you prefer.
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Re: nc30 twin sided swing arm
Bike_Nut wrote:Sorry, just my warped scense of humour.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TROLLING :p
You definately cant trust everything you read on the net, just like many books contain errors and opinions. Wiki is better than it used to be as it is moderated and peer reviewed now.
I love the single sided swing arm as I can change wheels without getting my hands oily from the chain or struggling to get the disk into the caliper which is why it was developed for endurance racing but I guess ultimate performance is worse than conventional otherwise it would be used in motogp. However, with my riding skills being the reason I am slow and not the bike I guess all that matters is which you prefer.
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Re: nc30 twin sided swing arm
That looks wicked.

DSSAs have many advantages: stiffer, lighter, cheaper wheel bearings! The only advantage I can see to SSSAs is that it's quicker to change tyres, which for most of us is an annual job at most, which we pay someone else to do anyway. I suppose there is an advantage if you want an underseat exhaust, but I feel that that's been shown up for a pointless fashion accessory by now anyway.

DSSAs have many advantages: stiffer, lighter, cheaper wheel bearings! The only advantage I can see to SSSAs is that it's quicker to change tyres, which for most of us is an annual job at most, which we pay someone else to do anyway. I suppose there is an advantage if you want an underseat exhaust, but I feel that that's been shown up for a pointless fashion accessory by now anyway.
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Re: nc30 twin sided swing arm
I'm not so sure about the weight disadvantage of a single sider, perhaps a bit unfair to weigh it against the (hrc) sp2 swingarm above which will probably be lighter, but last I heard an fzr1000 swinger (which someone on here fitted to an nc30) was actually heavier than the single sider.amorti wrote:DSSAs have many advantages: stiffer, lighter, cheaper wheel bearings! The only advantage I can see to SSSAs is that it's quicker to change tyres, which for most of us is an annual job at most, which we pay someone else to do anyway. I suppose there is an advantage if you want an underseat exhaust, but I feel that that's been shown up for a pointless fashion accessory by now anyway.
Biggest advantage of a single sider for me is: 1. Looks and 2. Changing wheels!

+1 on the sp2 swingarm looking wicked!
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Re: nc30 twin sided swing arm
The SSSA itself may be light, but the hub, axle and adjuster are heavyCammo wrote:I'm not so sure about the weight disadvantage of a single sider, perhaps a bit unfair to weigh it against the (hrc) sp2 swingarm above which will probably be lighter, but last I heard an fzr1000 swinger (which someone on here fitted to an nc30) was actually heavier than the single sider.amorti wrote:DSSAs have many advantages: stiffer, lighter, cheaper wheel bearings! The only advantage I can see to SSSAs is that it's quicker to change tyres, which for most of us is an annual job at most, which we pay someone else to do anyway. I suppose there is an advantage if you want an underseat exhaust, but I feel that that's been shown up for a pointless fashion accessory by now anyway.
Biggest advantage of a single sider for me is: 1. Looks and 2. Changing wheels!![]()
+1 on the sp2 swingarm looking wicked!

You have to weigh like for like, and a DSSA rear end (swinger, axle, bearings etc.) are cheaper to make, lighter, more rigid, and more reliable. It may not be a problem on the nc30? but T595s see rear wheel bearings fail at a surprisingly low mileage, they have been moved from a 12k service item to a 6k service item. When they do they are remarkably expensive and of course it's always a catastrophic failure when it does give.
I recently switched from my CB-1's standard spindly little steel arm to an nc29 arm. The nc29 arm is definitely heavier but I don't care, it's a work of art, particularly when compared to the other piece.
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Re: nc30 twin sided swing arm
There both nice, i'm not sure of the exact reasons behind it (cost / weight / reliability etc) but the conventional swiningarm seems to dominate all the new moto-gp bikes.
Its an iconic feature of the NC30 so unless building something special i'd be reluctant to whip it away but for the benefits to a home user (tyre change / chain adjust) i dont mind using a conventional arm for how often I do it.
I do love the SP2 arm though.. id gladly fit one of those.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-SP2-VTR1000 ... 3f0973c56d
Its an iconic feature of the NC30 so unless building something special i'd be reluctant to whip it away but for the benefits to a home user (tyre change / chain adjust) i dont mind using a conventional arm for how often I do it.
I do love the SP2 arm though.. id gladly fit one of those.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-SP2-VTR1000 ... 3f0973c56d

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Re: nc30 twin sided swing arm
For anyone thinking about "fitting" an SP2 swing arm onto their NC, I can only advice to be prepared for a LOT of work...including cutting the part in half, removing some 45 ish mms,welding it together again, heat treat the part, machining a new pivot shaft, totally removing the shock linkage lugs, fabricate new lugs to weld on, aligning the whole lot to properly fit the chassis and so on and on and on.
Regarding my choice of this part, it was solely based on its good looks and low weight. I am sure there are many, many other swing arms much easier converted to fit these bikes, and I would not do it again, now that I know the amount of work involved. Don't forget you'll need a rear wheel machined to fit also, upping the total cost another few hundred quid.
BUT, I would love to see someone get really creative and fabricate a complete, new swing arm for the NC..!
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Regarding my choice of this part, it was solely based on its good looks and low weight. I am sure there are many, many other swing arms much easier converted to fit these bikes, and I would not do it again, now that I know the amount of work involved. Don't forget you'll need a rear wheel machined to fit also, upping the total cost another few hundred quid.
BUT, I would love to see someone get really creative and fabricate a complete, new swing arm for the NC..!
/Lasse