Neutral issue
Forum rules
Please can you post items for sale or wanted in the correct For Sale section. Items / bikes for sale here will be removed without warning. Reasons for this are in the FAQ. Thanks
Please can you post items for sale or wanted in the correct For Sale section. Items / bikes for sale here will be removed without warning. Reasons for this are in the FAQ. Thanks
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 37
- Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:12 am
- Location: Barry, outside Cardiff
Neutral issue
I replaced my clutch friction and steel plates with OE parts, changed the clutch nut, put a new gasket on the crackcase cover, put in fresh oil (twice, once to flush, once to run), put a new OE clutch cable in following existing routing.
The engine runs nicely anyway, the issue is now i cant seem to select neutral when the bike is running, only when its off. I had also checked cleaned and regreased the mechanism that activated the clutch pushrod, checked the pushroad for true (it was).
The only thing i didnt do when reassembling the clutch was to re-stake the clutch nut but im pretty sure thats not the problem as i had pretty much this issue on and off before i started anything.
Would it be the 3 spring washers that sit together inside the clutch ? maybe old and worn out, though they operate in the opposite direction to what the problem seems to be.
What else should i be looking at ? everything came out and went back in smoothly enough, didnt seem to be any noticable wear anywhere in the clutch basket.
The engine runs nicely anyway, the issue is now i cant seem to select neutral when the bike is running, only when its off. I had also checked cleaned and regreased the mechanism that activated the clutch pushrod, checked the pushroad for true (it was).
The only thing i didnt do when reassembling the clutch was to re-stake the clutch nut but im pretty sure thats not the problem as i had pretty much this issue on and off before i started anything.
Would it be the 3 spring washers that sit together inside the clutch ? maybe old and worn out, though they operate in the opposite direction to what the problem seems to be.
What else should i be looking at ? everything came out and went back in smoothly enough, didnt seem to be any noticable wear anywhere in the clutch basket.
-
- Moderators
- Posts: 8172
- Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:01 pm
- Bike owned: CBR954
Re: Neutral issue
I take it that this is an NC30?
A lot of owners report that finding neutral is a bit of a pain.
If you shift it down to 1st then blip the throttle a little does it make it easier to find neutral?
A lot of owners report that finding neutral is a bit of a pain.
If you shift it down to 1st then blip the throttle a little does it make it easier to find neutral?
xivlia wrote:i dont go fast on this bike so really do not need a rear brake.. /
vic-vtrvfr wrote:Ask xivlia for help, he's tackled just about every problem u could think of...
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 37
- Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:12 am
- Location: Barry, outside Cardiff
Re: Neutral issue
I was just about to post saying i'd read that elsewhere, i will give it a go when the mrs has taken the kids out.
So far its pointing to clutch adjustment, i have a bit of play also in the foot gear lever so will look at that too.
I read that if you can select neutral when its off then that rules out most mechanical issues, which is a relief.
Will post back shortly.
So far its pointing to clutch adjustment, i have a bit of play also in the foot gear lever so will look at that too.
I read that if you can select neutral when its off then that rules out most mechanical issues, which is a relief.
Will post back shortly.
- Cammo
- Site Supporter
- Posts: 4505
- Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 12:35 am
- Bike owned: NC30
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 37
- Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:12 am
- Location: Barry, outside Cardiff
Re: Neutral issue
Blip of the throttle, in it goes every time so far, odd.
One concern i do have though is that when i put it into first when the engine is running, it really goes CLUNK, its not satisfying in the same way as a car door shutting i can tell you :D
One concern i do have though is that when i put it into first when the engine is running, it really goes CLUNK, its not satisfying in the same way as a car door shutting i can tell you :D
- mattUKNC
- NWAA Supporter
- Posts: 1075
- Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 9:02 am
- Bike owned: Fury, NC30, CRF250L and a C90!
- Location: Surrey
Re: Neutral issue
In the HRC manual it clearly states; "Blip the throttle if you're finding it difficult to locate neutrel, it's one of the many NC30 characteristics..." -Cammo wrote:Yeah, to be honest that sounds pretty normal!


-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 37
- Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:12 am
- Location: Barry, outside Cardiff
Re: Neutral issue
Ahh righto, didnt know that, dont have the HRC manual, only the Haynes :)
Will not staking the clutch nut prove to be an issue do you think ? i torqued it up etc, was just getting melted by the sun and the brain switched off.
Will not staking the clutch nut prove to be an issue do you think ? i torqued it up etc, was just getting melted by the sun and the brain switched off.
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 100
- Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:44 am
- Bike owned: NC35
- Location: London
Re: Neutral issue
i had the same issue but on my NC35, when you changed your clutch did you file down the fins on the clutch basket (where the clutch plates rest) so it was super smooth? i felt there was a few subtle bumps and after i smoothed them over i have never since had a problem selecting neutral.
hope this helps.
hope this helps.
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 37
- Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:12 am
- Location: Barry, outside Cardiff
Re: Neutral issue
I didnt no, i ran a finger over each part to check for damage but didnt feel anything that seemed anything other than smooth.
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 41
- Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:13 am
- Bike owned: Honda VFR 400 NC30
- Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
Re: Neutral issue
I had a similar problem with my NC30 when I brought it, a simple clutch cable change fixed the problem, the original was stretched to shit.