A thread compairing my new CBR600RR and my old NC30

[Giffin101]

The answer is they don't, the CBR is taller, wider and longer than the NC30. It might feel more spacious by being perched up on top of the bloody thing instead of almost sitting in the NC.
You could have just done a "I've got a new bike" thread instead of all this pretentious carry on...

[Martin]

About as subtle as being taken from behind by a horny elephant Giff but right on the money...

[chrisja2]

[quote="guess who"]Excuse the new hack please. How do they make a 600 that's the same size as a 90's 400, yet so much more comfortable/spacious? I feel the NC30's going to be ignored for a little while longer...it's been needing a new MOT since December last yet.

A bit like saying why is my new 40" lcd tv so much thinner than my 16" CRT portable. Why is my ipod smaller than my tape walkman etc really. Both nice bikes though not really comparable.

[arsey30]

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Excuse the new hack please. How do they make a 600 that's the same size as a 90's 400, yet so much more comfortable/spacious? I feel the NC30's going to be ignored for a little while longer...it's been needing a new MOT since December last yet.

Are you aware that it is a condition of insurance with some companies, that the insured bike must always have a current MOT?

Dave.

[monkeywithaplan]

i am lost as to how the thread just turned into a b1tching session.

can a man not be in appreciation and wonderment of the modern engineering on his new bike?

love the pics. sitting next to your CBR the NC30 is still a headturner. always thought the looks of the NCs are timeless.

+1 to take the NC off your hands if it is dirtying the carpet

[tanuki]

Excuse the new hack please. How do they make a 600 that's the same size as a 90's 400, yet so much more comfortable/spacious? I feel the NC30's going to be ignored for a little while longer...it's been needing a new MOT since December last yet.

A bit like saying why is my new 40" lcd tv so much thinner than my 16" CRT portable. Why is my ipod smaller than my tape walkman etc really. Both nice bikes though not really comparable.

+100

The VFR is a piece of biking history the CBR is just another high revving in line bore that will soon be forgotton when the next one comes out.

FFS Honda make something interesting

[craigs23]

I can't understand how a bike that's as light and easy to handle as a Gullarm, with comfort and ergonomics that defy its style, an engine that tops 160mph, which wheelies in first and second off the throttle, pulls cleanly from 5k can be considered boring?

I'm not the kind of owner who buys each and every new model when it's released (which usually adds up to a gram lighter here or a bhp extra at the top there) but Honda have made a definate, noticeable, useable improvement over its last model; it allows me to use the bike how I want, when I want, day in, day out, usually with a grin on my mug when I realise my commute is no longer a chore...

...and I find that a rather fun prospect.

[tanuki]

because its just like every other bike on the market 4 cylinders in a line..boring.

Honda have broken the mould so many times and yet they continue down the path of the cheapest option how it performs is besides the point, I cant use my 400s potential on the road so I find it extremely unlikely that someone could use a modern 600 to its full potential either but saying that if someone brought out a V4 600 II would be first in the Q.

however much you love your bike and I am sure you do but it will never be a head turner, more people come over and look at mine and fontyyys bikes at the local bike meets because they are different, every other bike there is a CBZXXR600/1000 the only other bikes that seeem to get any attention are stuff like Ducatis, Prillias and MVs the trouble with modern bikes is they all come from the same big pot of bland sameness.

I am sure your bike performs amazingly my ZX6 was a rocket but it had no character ddint stand out from the crowd which is why it had to go.

[Lasse]

Why even care at how many look at your bike at a meeting? He loves his bike, he ought to.

[craigs23]

I cant use my 400s potential on the road so I find it extremely unlikely that someone could use a modern 600 to its full potential either but saying that if someone brought out a V4 600 II would be first in the Q

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I appreciate that I'll never have the talent needed to fully exploit what a 600's potential is on the road, but that certainly doesn't mean that a). I don't try and continue learning from the experiences that a bigger capacity bike offers me and b). it's very capable of offering a decent ride whatever the speed I wish to travel at. In some ways, when I'm not travelling at silly speeds I believe it's actually a little safer - having a little bit more in reserve can be a blessing at times; and I can't fault the way the CBR carries its weight, changes direction, its stability under braking, midcorner composure, available ground clearence, feedback, riding position... The elements that on previous bikes I've had to think around/adapt to riding - on the RR I can just concentrate on the road/conditions ahead a lot better.

I need to thrash my NC30 to get a decent pace out of the thing, and sure, that offers its rewards, but it's not always wise for me to ride like that all the time on the road. It's a Sunday toy. The CBR is just as capable (if not more so) when hooning down a back road than it is running to and from work every day - I can't say that for my 400 - even if it was stock and I wasn't so precious over it I wouldn't want to use one daily (I used to do similar mileage on my first NC30 in all conditions to and from Uni - I'm not as young as I used to be and would find it a bit of a pain these days). I guess a bike like this is a bike I use as it was designed - a nice capable, sporty all rounder - it certainly ticks all the boxes I require from a bike. The only thing it lacks from my NC30 is the soundtrack and a bit of individuality, but it more than makes up for it in other areas. I wouldn't class an NC30 as a great example of a rare bike though (and most people regard them as a 'first big sportsbike' anyway) - an NSR250 or Italian exotica fits that criteria a lot better, but there's not a chance I'd even contemplate using one everyday.

Sure, the CBR doesn't draw as much attention from fellow bikers at meets, but I've never been someone to exhibit my bikes (forum project threads and the odd 'new bike' topics aside). When I rode around on the Konica I found the attention it received rather tedious. Even at weekends I'd only use meeting points as either a place to organise a rideout from or just as a stopping off point for a cup of tea/call of nature point. I made the NC30 a lot more understated because of this - draws less attention and only the eagle eyes will spot the myriad of modifications/amount of work that's gone into it.

I can think of a handful of road bikes Honda have released that have been somewhat revolutionary (CB750, RC30, Blade, CBX1000, Goldwing...), but if a lot of their bikes are a constant revision of previous guises - nothing wrong with that, afterall, if it ain't broke; tweak it. The CBR6 has been running for 20 years now and is testiment to this - it's always been marked out as the everyday/all rounder of the bunch (first gen RR aside) and the new bike continues this pedigree - just that now it's arguably the class leader on track as well as on the road.