i need some, good quality hard ones, not the cheap ones where trhe bolts snap at 2mph!!

any ideas guys??? :)

R and G?

the impression i have got with people and crash bungs, is its better to do the all or nothing with R&Gs non drill type as the others help cause more damage than protection to the bike.ie snapping lugs, breaking brackets and helping to tear fairings off, etc.

i would go the whole hog with non drill R&Gs personally. its on my list of bits needed at mo

+1 R&G sliders FTW. Dont trust cheap sliders on Ebay. They might look the same, but the material of the slider and the gauge of the bolt is less the standard. I have seen bolts with a 5G usded on sliders. . R&G uses a 8G bolt.

r and g all the way, the non drill kit is a bit awkward to fit but it looks high quality and well made

My wife tested the NC35 R&G 'no-drill' kit at cadwell, fell off on the left, flipped onto the right when it hit the grass...



Ignoring the damage from flipping over onto the other side[1], it snapped a clutch lever, the gear lever and scraped the exhaust and bar weight.

Had the original exhaust guard been on that would have been saved so it would purely have been a clutch lever, gear lever and bar weight (plus maybe mirrors if fitted). Plus a few minor scrapes on the footpegs etc.

Druid

[1] Snapped the right bar, snapped the right peg, bent the right hanger, smashed the indicator, bent the subframe, cracked the lower fairing, cracked the tail section, scratched the tank. Would have probably been less damage if the ground wasn't so soft and the crash bung just sunk.

fastdruid - so do you think the damage might have been less without the sliders? I have heard from others that sliders can and might cause more damages in a crash (not a 5-20MPH tip over). I have also seen bikes with sliders that extend way out which can cause the bike to flip.

Just wanted to know you thoughts. :)

calirvf wrote:fastdruid - so do you think the damage might have been less without the sliders? I have heard from others that sliders can and might cause more damages in a crash (not a 5-20MPH tip over). I have also seen bikes with sliders that extend way out which can cause the bike to flip.

Just wanted to know you thoughts. :)

Just look at the fairing! That would have been mullered without the crash bungs, there was a small amount of damage[1] caused removing the bent bung but that's covered up by the replacement bung. If it hadn't been for flipping over just a replacement gear and clutch lever would have seen it on it's way again (as it was took half a day scrounging bits and rebuilding it inbetween my sessions).

I've seen someone drop a bike (off a stand so no slowing it at all), resulting in just a scuffed and very slightly bent bung. This is IMO the most likely kind of spill, 0mph and just drop it, for this alone it's worth it.

I've seen a GSXR1000 highside and apart from a bent and scuffed bung, broken gear lever tip and a small scratch it was undamaged! Unfortunatly the guy riding it didn't get away so easily.

Sure they're not going to prevent damage in every kind of accident and yes in some circumstances they could make the damage worse but IMO the typical crashes you're likely to have they'll help and in some cases prevent any damage beyond the bung.

Druid

[1] If it hadn't been a trackday and I wasn't trying to fix it I would have cut the bolt rather than unscrew it, that would have resulted in probably no damage to the fairing at all.

thanks for the fine reply. I do agree that with sliders it all depends on the individual crash. Some comes out ok and some not.

i thought the non drilling r&g's were a compromise compaired to the drilling ones, every non drill one iv seen has bent back like that and many have smashed the fairing below it.

I plan to put crash bungs on my tyga vfr project but as i will have to drill the fairing to fit them what ever i figure i will go for the drilling required onces.

What are your opinions on this