No compression
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:20 pm
Evening all, long time lurker first time poster!
Anyhoo, down to business...and before I start I'm not expecting any good news to come from this thread. I expect the inevitable bad news so this is more a blind hope post than a bike newbie fumbling in the dark.
NC29-L of a 91 vintage. Picked up for a song on fleabay as a "spares or repairs" job. Generally tidy - smokes badly when warm was the description. That didn't phase me (too much to go into now but I'm sure I'll explain why later).
Obvious problem when I went to see it, cylinder number 1 (nearest the front brake lever for clarification) wasn't firing at all. Cold downpipe etc. rough as a badgers bum when revved.
Scenario A - quick fix, plug/coil/HT lead knackered.
Scenario B - not so bad, carb/fuel related problem.
Scenario C - uh-oh, no compression.
Two guesses which one it is... I was first alerted that this wasn't looking like it was going to be easy when I pulled the plug out and found a brand new one in there perfectly clean...
"Alarm bells are ringing Willy..."
Plugged in the HT lead and checked spark - yeap all present and correct. Looked a little weak though... "Just so happened" to have a spare set of coils in the lock-up so for sh!ts and giggles (oh ok, in desperation) swapped them over. No improvement.
Tried to do a compression test but the thread on my tester to large for the diddly little plugs on these bikes. Ho-hum...
Off with the carbs then. Wasn't too hopeful about this, all the butterflies were opening evenly and a smell of petrol in the corresponding inlet made me think it was probably ok. On inspection the float bowls were all full and no evidence of any problems.
Application of the palm of the hand on the inlets and turning the engine over gives suction on cylinders 2 through 4 but ziltch on 1.
Satan himself has vomited in my kettle... we have no compression by the looks of things...
Looking down the inlets into the cylinder head and turning the engine over you can see the inlet valves opening and closing, so guessing they're doing their job properly.
So, the nub of the post... what's it most likely to be before I start taking the head off or dropping the block out.
Exhaust valves?
Flipping great hole in the piston?
Rings?
Or something my inexperience of these particular engines doesn't know about...you know... "a really really really easy and cheap as chips fix..." (he prays with a tear in his eye).
As I said, I'm expecting the worse so you won't be the barer of sad tidings if it is one of the inevitable problems rearing it's ugly head.
Any advice gratefully received. Muchos gracias!
Anyhoo, down to business...and before I start I'm not expecting any good news to come from this thread. I expect the inevitable bad news so this is more a blind hope post than a bike newbie fumbling in the dark.
NC29-L of a 91 vintage. Picked up for a song on fleabay as a "spares or repairs" job. Generally tidy - smokes badly when warm was the description. That didn't phase me (too much to go into now but I'm sure I'll explain why later).

Obvious problem when I went to see it, cylinder number 1 (nearest the front brake lever for clarification) wasn't firing at all. Cold downpipe etc. rough as a badgers bum when revved.
Scenario A - quick fix, plug/coil/HT lead knackered.
Scenario B - not so bad, carb/fuel related problem.
Scenario C - uh-oh, no compression.
Two guesses which one it is... I was first alerted that this wasn't looking like it was going to be easy when I pulled the plug out and found a brand new one in there perfectly clean...

"Alarm bells are ringing Willy..."
Plugged in the HT lead and checked spark - yeap all present and correct. Looked a little weak though... "Just so happened" to have a spare set of coils in the lock-up so for sh!ts and giggles (oh ok, in desperation) swapped them over. No improvement.
Tried to do a compression test but the thread on my tester to large for the diddly little plugs on these bikes. Ho-hum...
Off with the carbs then. Wasn't too hopeful about this, all the butterflies were opening evenly and a smell of petrol in the corresponding inlet made me think it was probably ok. On inspection the float bowls were all full and no evidence of any problems.
Application of the palm of the hand on the inlets and turning the engine over gives suction on cylinders 2 through 4 but ziltch on 1.
Satan himself has vomited in my kettle... we have no compression by the looks of things...

Looking down the inlets into the cylinder head and turning the engine over you can see the inlet valves opening and closing, so guessing they're doing their job properly.
So, the nub of the post... what's it most likely to be before I start taking the head off or dropping the block out.
Exhaust valves?
Flipping great hole in the piston?
Rings?
Or something my inexperience of these particular engines doesn't know about...you know... "a really really really easy and cheap as chips fix..." (he prays with a tear in his eye).

As I said, I'm expecting the worse so you won't be the barer of sad tidings if it is one of the inevitable problems rearing it's ugly head.
Any advice gratefully received. Muchos gracias!