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Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:58 am
by Mr Nice
At the moment I keep the NC30 round at the In-law's gaff, they have a nice big double garage and plenty of space to keep my bike safe a dry. Until now I've been living in a flat, so leaving the bike in a garage has been my only safe option really, but now I have a house I'm looking to start keeping the bike here more often (once I've sorted a new rear gate so that I can get it into the back garden). My best option is setting an anchor point and securing it with a dirty big chain, the question is, which combination to go for? We have flagstones and brick walls in the rear garden at the moment.

There are plenty of options available from the usual suspects but I'd like opinions from you good people that have parted with your hard earned cash already.

Re: Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:40 am
by SPOONDIDDLY
The best security is to keep the bike out of site. firstly make sure that you have a sturdy gate with a big lock on it and ensure that anybody walking past cant see it.

Then I would put a big anchor into the ground with a big, visible chain and lock around the frame/swingarm/rear wheel.

I would also put a front disc lock (with alarm preferably) on with a reminder cable and some sort of visible reminder flag to the handlebars.

To top it all off I would then put a bike cover over it.

The best way to protect your bike is to ensure that a thief doesn't know that there is anything to steal.

The next best way (should somebody end up in a position to steal it) is to ensure that even with the proper tools and equipment - it will simply be too hard and time consuming to execute.

You could also install a dummy security camera and put up signs that security is active on site.

It's always good to befriend your neighbours too so that they can keep an eye out for sus-characters

Re: Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:56 am
by Mr Nice
Well the garden is fairly secluded and we get on well with the neighbours, it's very quiet where we live and everyone looks out for each other. Like I said, once I have the gate sorted it's the actual securing of the bike that I need advice on. I'll be getting a cover in the style of this http://www.mbmotorcyclecovers.co.uk/tourer.html as it's the only option available (limited space in my garden).

I'm after recommendations for chains and anchors, there are plenty out there on the market but it's hard to sort the good from the bad. Same for the disc locks for a bit of added security, are there any that spring to mind?

Re: Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:25 pm
by SPOONDIDDLY
I live in Australia so the brands will differ, my suggestion would be to buy the highest tensile chain with the thickest links and best corrosion protection that you can afford.

Don't do this on the cheap. Buy properly and you only buy once.

Go to a large hardware store that has brand name products and look in the hardware/security section - you'll find that there are a lot of different anti-theft locks, chains etc that will do the job. The higher end ones will be of higher tensile strength than most hacksaw blades so you won't have any issue there.

I personally run an oxford screamer brake disc lock which works great and is very sensitive. I then run an orange reminder cable to the handlebars with a big 'remove before flight' flag on the end. I have 2 bikes so I also have a big steel cable lock that wraps around the frame of both bikes and will deter all but the most determined and prepared thief.

Another thing to consider is installing a cheap solar sensor light - it will startle any thief that attempts to overcome your already overkill security measures.

Security is all about two things:

- Stealth: Hiding the bike so that the thief doesn't know it's there to steal
- Deterence: Ensuring that any thief that wants to steal your bike realises that it requires more effort than it's worth

When it comes to 'what to buy', google different products that meet your requirements to find peoples experiences. Something like a lock and chain should have the specific purpose of preventing theft. A ground anchor all comes down to how you want to do it - you can do it on the cheap and cement a bit of bent pipe into the ground for under $15, or you can buy a purpose built anchor that you bolt into the ground.

Once you decide on your budget and how far you're willing to go you will understand how much you have to spend on each aspect of your security.

Re: Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:06 pm
by JZH
I use a Pragmasis 16mm chain, Squire SS65CS padlock and Anti-Pinch Pin (http://securityforbikes.com/products.ph ... -Pinch+Pin) through the rear axle on my VFRs. Type of ground anchor would depend on the type of ground you have. Apart from the Anti-Pinch Pin, security products can be used on your current bike as well as your next bike, to they are IMHO a very good investment.

Ciao,

Re: Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:18 pm
by Mr Nice
That's exactly the site I was looking at. I think I'd go for the Torc ground anchor, 16mm Protector chain, and the Squire SS65CS, but not sure on the length as I don't have any rope in the shed to give a measure-up. I was really after opinions from people who've gone out and bought these items.

Re: Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:28 pm
by newtothis
Look here http://www.soldsecure.com/ all the kit is performance tested

Re: Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:13 pm
by jamesrm
JZH wrote:I use a Pragmasis 16mm chain, Squire SS65CS padlock and Anti-Pinch Pin (http://securityforbikes.com/products.ph ... -Pinch+Pin) through the rear axle on my VFRs. Type of ground anchor would depend on the type of ground you have. Apart from the Anti-Pinch Pin, security products can be used on your current bike as well as your next bike, to they are IMHO a very good investment.

Ciao,
How did you get it through the rear axle on an NC30?
Not that they are probably target no.1 for thieves in comparison to modern sports bikes, but even so, I can't see anywhere that solid to chain to on an NC30, unless I've missed something.

Rear wheel and front wheel are easily off, I guess possibly around rear wheel and swingarm is possible, but messy and probably dependant on what you are attaching the chain to.

Re: Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:23 am
by Neosophist
jamesrm wrote:
JZH wrote:I use a Pragmasis 16mm chain, Squire SS65CS padlock and Anti-Pinch Pin (http://securityforbikes.com/products.ph ... -Pinch+Pin) through the rear axle on my VFRs. Type of ground anchor would depend on the type of ground you have. Apart from the Anti-Pinch Pin, security products can be used on your current bike as well as your next bike, to they are IMHO a very good investment.

Ciao,
How did you get it through the rear axle on an NC30?
Not that they are probably target no.1 for thieves in comparison to modern sports bikes, but even so, I can't see anywhere that solid to chain to on an NC30, unless I've missed something.

Rear wheel and front wheel are easily off, I guess possibly around rear wheel and swingarm is possible, but messy and probably dependant on what you are attaching the chain to.
the pinch pin goes through the hollow axle on the rear hub, this makes it impossible to get the wheel off, need to remove swingarm to get bike off the chain...

and yes.. squire ssc65 and a 19mm chain for best relax, if they want to take it they willl of course but best to make it unappealing

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you can also shove it through a gap in the frame if you like

Re: Security Chains and Anchors

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:49 am
by Mr Nice
That Pinch Pin is ideal! What length pin did you go for and what size/length of chain?