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Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:01 pm
by Drunkn Munky
Ive seen a couple of high spec race V4's with an additional breather coming from the oil filler. Does anyone know why this is done and what benefit it gives?

Re: Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:02 pm
by porndoguk
I know the other consensus is to run a hose from the top breather to the filler hole, so there is a loop

Re: Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:16 pm
by Variablevalves suck
You would generally run two breathers to help the motor cope with pumping in the crank case.
You could run a breather from the head and another from the lower case.
I would guess more importantly on the V4 you would run a breather from both heads.
Remember when the piston moves down you have 100cc of air below the piston that has to go somewhere.

Re: Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:22 pm
by Cammo
porndoguk wrote:I know the other consensus is to run a hose from the top breather to the filler hole, so there is a loop
Yes, often used on enduro racers so that any oil that would have been blown out of the engine is returned to the sump.

Re: Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:14 pm
by Drunkn Munky
So the more breathers the better then?

I wonder if its possible or even worth fitting a rear cam cover to the front head so the front head has a breather also?

Re: Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:33 pm
by vfrman
Will that even work?

Re: Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:38 pm
by Drunkn Munky
vfrman wrote:Will that even work?
No idea lol Might try it later

Re: Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:30 am
by Morespeedvicar
I read somewere that motogp and F1 use a vac pump to suck out the gas in the crankcase, dunno if its true tho, but would help to get rid of alot of the pumping losses. There was also something i read about nascars using a one way valve and venting breather tank into the exhaust so that the negative pressures ing the exhaust would suck out the crankcase gases.
Cheers
Ian

Re: Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:04 am
by vfrman
But what happens when the piston is in the compression stroke? Wouldn't you need to fill the volume created by the piston moving up the bore?

Re: Additional crackcase breather

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:03 pm
by 999Gomerz
The one moving down the bore