should an NC30 start without choke

Forum rules
Please can you post items for sale or wanted in the correct For Sale section. Items / bikes for sale here will be removed without warning. Reasons for this are in the FAQ. Thanks
Post Reply
philfingers
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Posts: 384
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:14 pm
Bike owned: NC30 Type 7
Location: Kidderminster, Worcestershire
should an NC30 start without choke

Post by philfingers »

just got my bike. previous owner said it always starts without need for the choke. is this correct, it's an import and from what i've read they run a little leaner. It does indeed start without choke, will tickover right from the off and doesn't smell rich. std can. Seems to run ok through the rev range tho does feel a little rich/wooly
I've yet to remove the tank, i will in due course strip and clean the carbs as a matter of course and reset the balance. I have an ultrasonic tank and compressed air for a good clean out.
Chrissy_J
Settled in member
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:54 pm
Bike owned: VFR400Z NC21
Re: should an NC30 start without choke

Post by Chrissy_J »

The short answer is NO. Most petrol motors need some choke when starting from cold, except in hot weather when the bike's been in the sun, the fuel and air (in the airbox) are already warm and a less rich mixture is needed to start.

A choke works by richening the fuel/air mix, this is done by closing some of the air passages.
A dirty or blocked air filter would do the same thing so I'd look at that first.

You should always regard any previous owner as being monkey-fingered buffoons from hades, with less mechanical skill or sympathy than a housebrick, because quite often they are ... so a quick check on the consumables is always a good thing, when you purchase a new vehicle.
philfingers
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Posts: 384
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:14 pm
Bike owned: NC30 Type 7
Location: Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Re: should an NC30 start without choke

Post by philfingers »

i will be checking out various bits in the coming weeks, including giving the carbs a full check over. Oil filter has a little surface rust on it but as the bike has only done 1000miles in 6 years the oil is still a little golden in coolour. brake fluids need changing and will give the brakes a cursory clean.
I will check the airfilter out. It was justa quick question, to make sure they don't all do it!
Out of interest do valve clearances need doing often? My mille for instance, they rarely need doing at the first 9k unless they're seen a lot of track or race use.
JIGGLYB4LL
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Posts: 90
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:02 am
Bike owned: cbr125, NC30
Location: Norwich, Norfolk
Re: should an NC30 start without choke

Post by JIGGLYB4LL »

Chrissy_J wrote: You should always regard any previous owner as being monkey-fingered buffoons from hades, with less mechanical skill or sympathy than a housebrick, because quite often they are ...

lol lol :lol:
arsey30
Senior Member
Posts: 1218
Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:13 pm
Bike owned: ftr223 650 bros
Location: Surrey
Re: should an NC30 start without choke

Post by arsey30 »

None of my NC30, NC35, RC30 will ever start from cold without choke.

They may fire, but not catch.
User avatar
Lane
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Posts: 127
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 11:34 am
Bike owned: MC21,MC22,NC35's,VJ22
Location: Sydney, Australia
Re: should an NC30 start without choke

Post by Lane »

Motorcycles do not restrict the air passages, but enrichen the mixture using an additional fuel circuit.

An open throttle butterfly in the inlet provides too much restriction when extracting as much power as bikes do from small engines.
johnnie5
Settled in member
Posts: 70
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 10:59 pm
Re: should an NC30 start without choke

Post by johnnie5 »

Lane wrote:Motorcycles do not restrict the air passages, but enrichen the mixture using an additional fuel circuit.

An open throttle butterfly in the inlet provides too much restriction when extracting as much power as bikes do from small engines.
this all depends on the bike

some use a conventional choke which restricts air

a lot use an enrichment circuit

Post Reply