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NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:42 am
by twistywizard
Hi guys

I have a 1992 NC30 that I am trying to get ready to sell after splitting with the other half. It has not been ridden for about 8 months and sat in the garage.

I went to start it and there were no lights on the dash when I switched the ignition on. So I removed the battery and have charged this fully. I then turned the key to on and nothing....

No lights on the dash, nothing like the lights etc work. I took the side panel off and checked the connectors/plus where the ignition switch goes in and nothing. Sprayed some contact cleaner in as well in case it was corrosion.

What would it be best to check? I am guessing I need to try a new ignition barrel? Is there any way of checking this with a multimeter before acquring one. Any fuses/relays that need checking?

Some help would be great :)

Re: NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:55 am
by porndoguk
id start with checking that the battery has charged!

you may well have put it on a charger, and left it for a while but even so it will most likely be shafted,

also check that the ignition is plugged into the loom.

Fuses above the starter solenoid, = 30AMP, and a couple of 15 and 10s under the pillion seat.

other wise check your safety circuit, diode, clutch switch, neutral,

if thats ok then check the starter solenoid if its seized etc then it wont start because the coil will not pull in to make the contacts.

a multimeter would be the weapon of choice here, Volts and continuity will be the sections youll need

Rick

Re: NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:29 am
by twistywizard
Battery is perfectly fine. I even stuck it on my Blade and it started that.

I have traced the ignition switch back to the loom plug and that seems fine/secure and I contact cleaned it for good measure. Or do you mean elsehwere? I have had issue with the Kill Switch but that is just with starting.

At present I get no dash lights at all. When I turn the ignition to On, it is like it has not been turned to on. I plan to pull the battery from my Blade to try just to double check but I dont think it is this.

Fuses under the seat are all fine, I checked those. Where is this 30A fuse located? Is it near the battery. Is there much point at the moment checking things like starter solenoid etc seeing as it does not even get anywhere near the starting stage?

Re: NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:05 am
by porndoguk
twistywizard wrote: Fuses under the seat are all fine, I checked those. Where is this 30A fuse located? Is it near the battery. Is there much point at the moment checking things like starter solenoid etc seeing as it does not even get anywhere near the starting stage?
Fuses above the starter solenoid, = 30AMP
starter solenoid, RHS under the seat panel just under your right buttock as you sit on it on the RHS of the battery/subframe.

pull the lead off the top of the solenoid and it shall reveal a hidden green 30amp fuse. well it should, so numpty may have fitted a lower on in the pased.

Re: NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:13 am
by twistywizard
That is great cheers I will check that. Would this possibly cause no life to be seen at all on the dash?

Re: NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:23 am
by porndoguk
twistywizard wrote:That is great cheers I will check that. Would this possibly cause no life to be seen at all on the dash?
it would cause no life at all this is the MAIN fuse from battery to everything else.

Re: NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:39 am
by twistywizard
Ok great. I think I may have an ignition switch somewhere as well as a spare. See if I can find that if I have no luck with the Fuse/Battery

Thanks for the quick help on this.

Re: NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:13 pm
by Neosophist
As rick has said, the main 30A fuse in the starter solenoid will cause the bike to be completely dead if its blown.. shorting the battery out / connecting it backwards will blow this.

Good place to check

Re: NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:36 pm
by slowsport
if it still doesn't work and the main fuse is fine try and check your grounds, many times on older bikes a simple ground connection can corrode and could easily be knocked off then not actually attached, so make sure the negative is ground properly and any others you can find.

Re: NC30 Ignition Fault? No Life at all...

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:45 am
by DrunkenMistake
I had a similar problem with my cbr250, fuses looked sweet but nothing happend,

So i swapped out the ignition fuse anyway and it fixed it, so maybe just change the fuse to be safe, sometimes you cant see it