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Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:01 pm
by tomski
On attempting some electrical fault finding on the charging system, I think I may have found a bigger fish fry.

I initially checked all the expected things with the limited equipment i have at home.

After jiggery pokery with connectors and groundings, checks with a multimeter across the 3 yellow phases prior to the the R/R appeared to be producing the expected results.
I therefore checked the battery terminals during fast idle which initially was correct, but then after another bump start it wasn't getting much above 11V.

Strange.

So... decided I'd whip the generator cover to see what's lurking underneath, to find a little oil dribble out.
:cry: :cry: :cry:

I wound the bolts back up and retreated, not had the cover off before now, but would I be right in thinking that my crankseals have gone causing my stator/genorator to get excessively lubed :lol: ??

If so, can the seals be replaced externally, or is it a full rebuild? :pray:

Cheers guys

Re: Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:48 pm
by banoffee
it's supposed to have a bit of oil in there I believe?

Re: Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:01 pm
by tomski
Really?

I hope you're right!
But that would be a new experience for me. Any more opinions/facts would be appreciated, thanks banoffee

Re: Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:14 pm
by banoffee
from the Honda service manual...

"the engine oil will spill out when the left crankcase cover is removed. place a clean oil pan under the engine to catch the oil and add the recommended oil to the specified level after installing the cover"

;)

Re: Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:21 pm
by tomski
Ah, sweet!

Thanks alot bud, I'll get cracking on it again :grin:

Re: Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:49 pm
by Sligeach
things are fine buddy. Its supposed to happen, perfectly normal. Do you know what you are looking for with the windings?

Re: Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:55 pm
by rich1988
buggered battery? can you test the direct voltage from the genny? its around 50 volts isnt it?

Re: Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:00 pm
by CMSMJ1
Some oil is totally normal. When you have the generator off then you can see into the crankcases...cool.

Check your output at the plug by your knee - should have no resistance and also 50V AC through the three yellow wires.

Might be your battery itself is dead.

Does it take a charge off an optimate jobbie?

Re: Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:03 pm
by rich1988
ohhh Im just too good 8-) (that is if the poster above knows what hes talking about :P )

Re: Surprise Behind Generator Cover ??

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:23 pm
by tomski
In fairness, I've probably jumped the gun in removing the flywheel, or the retaining bolt at least (Need to grab puller from work).

I've been thoroughly looking at the 'electrosport fault finding flowchart', and it seems unecessary to remove the flywheel, but halfway there, so why not. There may well be something blatent under there.
Due to the battery being dead, it has limited my how much testing I could do. Push starting it was getting rather tedious.

...Tedious because when applying brakes to stop, both the front/rear brake light circuit seem to draw a load or energy from the ignition circuit causing engine stall. :x

It could well be the battery at fault, but I'll get it on charge at work tomorrow.