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				Spongy Brakes
				Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:13 am
				by clarkee
				As you all know brakes on the 3tj always been top notch but since I had an off few months ago (bike ended up upside down against the tyres) mine have been really spongy.
Had them off, cleaned out calipers and replaced the fluid, even tie wrapped the lever back overnight but still the same, comes right back to the bar.  Any ideas?
			 
			
					
				Re: Spongy Brakes
				Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:59 am
				by Q007
				could be bent/warped disc/discs. mine had 1 disk that when laid flat looked like a breakfast bowl and was spongy as hell.
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				Re: Spongy Brakes
				Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:27 am
				by Evilchicken0
				A warped disk will do that ...  the brakes will bleed and be hard until you move the bike then they'll be soft again, pump them with the bike soft and they're hard again.
If they just won't bleed in then you could have a piston locked or some air behind it.
Lastly you could have popped a seal in the master cylinder so the fluid isn't being pumped.
Swap a few bits out from a working system to see if it makes a difference - it could be an excuse to get a radial master
			 
			
					
				Re: Spongy Brakes
				Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:39 am
				by clarkee
				Evilchicken0 wrote:A warped disk will do that ...  the brakes will bleed and be hard until you move the bike then they'll be soft again, pump them with the bike soft and they're hard again.
If they just won't bleed in then you could have a piston locked or some air behind it.
Lastly you could have popped a seal in the master cylinder so the fluid isn't being pumped.
Swap a few bits out from a working system to see if it makes a difference - it could be an excuse to get a radial master
Cheers guys, looks like the master cylider I think.