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coiless plug caps

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:04 pm
by sniff
Hi
haven't been on the site for a whle but just starting to prep my NC29 for track day instructing.
Has anyone tried replacing the coils with coiless caps ( I have some spare ones from my R6 1999 model), i'm going to be running this with an HRC ecu marked EK8 (bit faded) any help here would be great.
many Thanks

Re: coiless plug caps

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:32 pm
by sniff
I'm sure some one must have done this.... I know that its been done on the zxr400

Re: coiless plug caps

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:59 am
by greggo
Hmm I remember one of the other aussies on here has the CBR6 plug/coil caps in his bike. Wouldn't think it would be that hard to do if you have a wiring diagram and some time to play.

Don't remember if it was Alixta or Matty69, I remember seeing pics of it.

Re: coiless plug caps

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:03 am
by sniff
Hi thanx for that i'll try and search the archive again, or may just check the electrickery values in the book...

Re: coiless plug caps

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:52 pm
by Flint666
Pinched this from here http://www.zrxoa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179875
Hope it helps ( ok so follow the link for the pictures

Andy

ZRX stick coil wiring harness build

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Here's some pics of my wiring layout using a Kaw/ZX9 donor harness,
I use a spare head as a jig, but spacing on the conniectors is 3.5 in.,
center to center, all connections are sleeve crimp and silver soldered.
the last aft 5 to 7 in. into bike coil oem connectors are color matched
to help id, I stagger the splices to reduce bulk and possible shorting.

Coil connectors numbered Left to right(1-4), here's the connections,
Note BP means oem connector into coils, LH + RH is pos. on stick coil
connector.

#1 LH to LH BP Red(1/4 coil)
#1 RH to #4 LH(series jumper)
#2 LH to RH BP Red(2/3 coil)
#2 RH to #3 LH(series jumper)
#3 RH to BP Green(2/3 coill)
#4 RH to BP Black (1/4 coil)

Pics. #1. basic layout soldered
#2. shrink tubing + pretape
#3. tape wrap and male connectors to oem harness.

BTW the last pic is of a mod. Honda harness, differrent. colors at stick
coil conn. than ZX9.

HTH Allen
Attached Images

Re: coiless plug caps

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:35 pm
by DiscoDan
It would be interesting to see if the 4 coil solution is heavier than the 2 coil standard, surely there must be economies of scale in being able to fire two plugs off one coil?

Re: coiless plug caps

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:28 pm
by zimm
also, whats sthe point ?

Re: coiless plug caps

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:51 pm
by sniff
zimm wrote:also, whats sthe point ?
To create much needed room for an over the radiator airbox scoop.............. ;)

Re: coiless plug caps

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:56 am
by matt69
There is an easier way.

I have made up a couple of little z shaped brackets out of aluminium and bolted them first to the coils and then into the old coil mount mounting holes. I also had to lengthen a couple of the HT leads and just bought some from an auto shop and made them up. As I was pressed for time I didn't get a chance to make up a proper mount to join the two coils together (the first one I made fouled the carb cables) so resorted to a cable tie. It's now been on the bike for 4 months and has done 4 race days to no ill effect.

The only problem is that the wires for the cables can be a bit of a pita when putting the ram airbox back on, but will fix this up in due course.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204 ... ckets2.jpg

Matt

Re: coiless plug caps

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:02 am
by greggo
I fell over a set of stick coils and am going to fit them as I build a new loom from scratch finally getting rid of the last foot or so of unneccessary wiring loom coiled behind my tacho.

I've had a search through the threads and found a few handly links and info however am stuck on 2 things.

1. the Std NC29 coils earth by being bolted to the frame, how do these earth? (Do they need to?)

2. Anyone know where I can buy 4 female plugs to attach to the feckers? I can't find anything with any of the usual electrical component suppliers!