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Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:30 pm
by iron chef
WOW, that paddock stand is awsome!

Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:57 pm
by Cammo
Martin wrote:Have I actually found it?
Nice one Martin.

I reckon that would have taken some late night trawling!

Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:28 am
by superlite
Those paddock stands come up on Yahoo every now and then.

Never mind that though - the umbrella girl in the 80s tweed/sweude/leather is doing it for me :pray:

Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:20 pm
by G-MAN
Under the covers :tits: spotted on Yahoo Japan, finally some naked TT F3 shots. Would love to see them pics a little closer

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:rock:

Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:51 am
by Martin
Great find!!! Dry slipper clutch by the looks of it :rock: Have you got a link to the pages that they were on please? Now all we need to find is the same thing but with an F3 NC30 :ninja: research!

Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:21 am
by Cammo
Martin wrote:Great find!!! Dry slipper clutch by the looks of it :rock: Have you got a link to the pages that they were on please?
Martin, this is from an auction on yahoo japan, this sort of thing comes up every so often.

Internet material is scarce from this period (was no internet!), but there seems to be a fair bit of literature out there.

G-man: Link to the auction please? Do you speak/read Japanese? 8-)


Edit: I have the nc21 and nc24 F3 manuals coming, will scan them when I receive them....

Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:51 am
by Martin
Ahh, I see. I've been using Yahoo japan search to find my results. There's a book called Honda Motorcycle legends that I think may have some info in there but you can't get it here.

Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:45 am
by Neosophist
Martin wrote:Ahh, I see. I've been using Yahoo japan search to find my results. There's a book called Honda Motorcycle legends that I think may have some info in there but you can't get it here.
http://www.phildentonengineering.com/pr ... sp?pid=992" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You mean that book yes? :P £50 in the uk

Theres another one of those part 2 ;)

Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:36 pm
by G-MAN
There you go lads but sadly its already sold, mmm :whistle: must be a 400greybike member that bought it ;) and the Japanese is translated under the link. I think that TT F3 bike has only the same colour to the vfr and that's is it as its a works moto as we mentioned urly on in the posts.

@ DatatRacer: No I use Google translate in the adjust toolbar (Click on little spanner)/ options/ tools/ Translate (bottom of the page) just down load the google bar.

@Martin: I don't think there was ever an F3 VFR NC30 made :scared: because as far as I have snooped around trying to get info I have came up with the following: It use to be a VF then they built a racer called the RVF but with the R in a different coulour as if to say its still a VF just a racing one (TT F3) and then they did an up grade of it called the RVF the moto in the brochure with the dry clutch so in reality the VFR NC30 that we see came from the RVF racer but its built for the road or something like that. :scare: and after that they built the RVF as we know it today. I think there was a rule change then were they had to use production bikes to race and the HRC manuals that we have to day is for the production bikes because the are very basic. The Kawasaki ZXR400 talks about F3 and SP models and has more complete manual etc. Don't quote me on this as its just my opinion and I found it to be the same in TT F1 between vf racer and RVF/VFR :popcorn:

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Re: For the F3-TT nerds among us.

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:58 am
by Martin
G-MAN wrote:
@Martin: I don't think there was ever an F3 VFR NC30 made :scared: because as far as I have snooped around trying to get info I have came up with the following: It use to be a VF then they built a racer called the RVF but with the R in a different coulour as if to say its still a VF just a racing one (TT F3) and then they did an up grade of it called the RVF the moto in the brochure with the dry clutch so in reality the VFR NC30 that we see came from the RVF racer but its built for the road or something like that. :scare: and after that they built the RVF as we know it today. I think there was a rule change then were they had to use production bikes to race and the HRC manuals that we have to day is for the production bikes because the are very basic.
There was a rule change in 1989 which meant that they had to use production based machines in the F3 class, hence the HRC VFR400r TT-F3 manual. The rules then changed again in 1992 I think and the F3 class dissapeared and the result was the SS/SP class. There was a full on HRC kit TT-F3 NC30 racer, different fairings, forks, cams, pistons, rods, rads, wheels etc etc. The only definitive picture of a complete bike we have though is the one on the front of the manual and the footage I found earlier on in this thread in the second part of the '91 ZXR400R vid :(

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