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				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:54 pm
				by Cammo
				tanuki wrote:Stickshift wrote:royster81 wrote:to anyone with the ramair ,how does the bike ride down low,i mean,could you in theory fit this to a road bike with little to no side affects ?
Does anyone with ramair use a filter?
 
I only use a fine mesh..
 
I use a small guage stainless mesh with the open carb setup, but what I wondered was whether anyone used a paper filter with the ramair setup?
Lots of factory bikes can still build up pressure over atmospheric (i.e. greater than 0 psi) even using a paper filter element.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:47 pm
				by royster81
				i was told today it's best to either run no filter or a very fine gauze filter as anything thicker takes away to much from what the ramair system does and it then becomes pointless to do it....
....then again cameron,anything(even a layer of toilet roll) would be a better filter than what i have at the minute lol
i was asking a few questions about different things today but forgot this, can anyone remember if the cdi's chris does can be used to any benefit on a road bike with nothing more than an FI jet kit and twin cans...
			 
			
					
				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:05 pm
				by Cammo
				royster81 wrote:can anyone remember if the cdi's chris does can be used to any benefit on a road bike with nothing more than an FI jet kit and twin cans...
The more you modify it the less user friendly it will be on the road generally.
If roadbike usability is what you want then it might be an idea to fit rvf carbs with other suitable mods. For track go all out!
 
			 
			
					
				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:26 am
				by chrisxr
				i have done a ram air on a road bike and the owner was  made up with the improvements   the terms "differnt bike" was used for his we fitted a small gauze to keep the undesirables out    but it will surley reduce engine life .  The only coment i could say with regards to performance  is once a good setup has been acheived  the bike may not be the best at idle it will be prefering air moving through the system although it isnt that bad   we have done some race bikes with all out motors and other things and they have idled, slow speed run, cruise speed and wide open throttle has been better than many stock bikes i have seen.
the ram air for the road cannot be a letter box style we just cut it off at 45 degrees in front of the radiator on the road bike.
the perticular road bike i did this (only ram aired one NC bike) on went from a poorly setup 58bhp to a healthy 67bhp  it already had on it a twin stack and we used a ignition.
nearly all road bikes now adays use the ram air system in some form   its a means of raising atmospheric presure which will always help the ultimate goal in charging a cylinder... But for road bikes  i dont know if the extra intake noise and the potential to be reducing upper cylinder life of your engine down worth it.
Personaly i wouldnt i prefer road bikes stockish......why ruin what was ment to be   there are no trophys or lap records to be had on the road..... i would like nice reliable road bike i could drive flat out with out a worry of it bursting!
			 
			
					
				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:56 am
				by royster81
				chrisxr wrote:i have done a ram air on a road bike.........
..........i could drive flat out with out a worry of it bursting!
outstanding reply chris ,thanks
what about the cdi's you do,could one of these be coupled with a twin system,FI jet kit and put on a road bike with benefits ?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:26 pm
				by chrisxr
				sure  a ignition will only make gains everywhere and with it being programable you make it as safe or as fierce as you wish.
			 
			
					
				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:17 pm
				by monkeywithaplan
				chrisxr wrote:sure  a ignition will only make gains everywhere and with it being programable you make it as safe or as fierce as you wish.
awwwwwwwwwwwww ddduuuuuddddddeeeee.   :) 
if you ever want to send a few of these out to someone as a longterm test mule, my advice is..........Pick Me!!!!....Pick Me!!!   
 
great topic you got going. has already got me into thinking on next years mods to track bike, and i haven't even got it set up for this year yet,  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:29 pm
				by royster81
				monkeywithaplan wrote:
if you ever want to send a few of these out to someone as a longterm test mule, my advice is..........
funny you should say that ...
i had a parcel arrive yesterday,but the bride missed it by 5 minutes so i went to get it today.....oh am i a jolly fella 
a few weeks ago i posted chris my yamamoto half system i had knocking about the garage,all the bikes had something of them so this was surplus but i thought if i was going to do something with it i'd better do it right and make it worthwhile
this is how it started
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0016.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0017.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0018.jpg
not a bad wee system,very loud and very light,made a nice sound flat out but this is what arrived and i can tell you i'm very happy
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0001.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0002.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0003.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0004.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0005.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0006.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0007.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0008.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0009.jpg
so as you would expect it didn't take me long to get it fitted and it went together like a hand to a glove ....
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... 0019-2.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... 0020-1.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0021.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0022.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0023.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0024.jpg
MMMM NICE .....
it didn't take gareth long to put in an appearance
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... 0025-1.jpg
(i mean ,why work on your bike when your mates call round to do it and you keep your hands clean )
he had a good look over the system and rated the cans well,they are identical the the cans he had made for the moriwaki system,the flow on the pipe work is seamless (there aren't any seams,it's just one pipe with very very nice bends lol)
and for the eagle eyed amougst us you'll have spoted something else that arrived in the same box....go on have another look at the pictures above .....
thats right ramair ....
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0011.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/ ... C_0012.jpg
mmmm looks like i'm going to have a busy weekend lol
 
			 
			
					
				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:12 pm
				by Spike16
				looks fantastic (if not slightly like a letter box, especially being red) have you jetted it to suit now, i thought you were the guy with a hrc set up? or have you got both on different bikes?
			 
			
					
				Re: power for pound......one for the nc30/35 racers
				Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:21 pm
				by Acid
				Looking good Rhory 
will you be out at kirky on the 29th testing ?