'06 R6 shock fit on RVF?

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Re: '06 R6 shock fit on RVF?

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fourfingers wrote:hey, don´t know exact data for the 06, but 04r6 had a 62mm stroke and 600lb in spring... So watch out for tyre rubbing on the rear fender under load. rvf´s +-50mmstroke 800lbin spring. It can all be sorted out.
Don't know the exact data, I will try to find that out. I am a forum member on the R6 board, R6Hooligan of course, haven't been on for awhile, but I'll try to post the question. '04 shock is completely different from the '06. Remember, with this mod, you HAVE to run the 5mm increase in ride height which translates to 30mm (?) increased travel at the rear, so clearance issues shouldn't be a problem. I only weigh 170lbs. so I shouldn't need a heavier spring anyway, but for larger riders they might to check this out as a potential issue.

EDIT. I checked the R6 forum and did a search, no info, although I saw a post where a big bloke of 6'3" 220lbs. was racing with the stock spring, and another said the stock set up was ideally for someone 185 lbs. ???
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nakes wrote:DO you think it's possible to make a top mount with ride height adjustment... maybe a bolt that turns in the top mount to adjust it up and down with another nut that locks it in place once set...?
Not going to be necessary because you MUST run the increased ride height "permanently" set at 5mm (see above), you can't set it any lower or you'll run the risk of the reservoir hitting the left sub frame mounting point. And I don't think you want to run any higher than that because the bike might be too quick in the steering department and become unstable. And with the standard forks you cant really raise the front either to compensate. An adjustable bolt type set up would work, don't get me wrong, but then you would set it at the correct height and leave it, so kinda a mute point. But I see your idea.
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nakes wrote:DO you think it's possible to make a top mount with ride height adjustment... maybe a bolt that turns in the top mount to adjust it up and down with another nut that locks it in place once set...?
Not going to be necessary because you MUST run the increased ride height "permanently" set at 5mm (see above), you can't set it any lower or you'll run the risk of the reservoir hitting the left sub frame mounting point. And I don't think you want to run any higher than that because the bike might be too quick in the steering department and become unstable. And with the standard forks you cant really raise the front either to compensate. An adjustable bolt type set up would work, don't get me wrong, but then you would set it at the correct height and leave it, so kinda a mute point. But I see your idea.
Cool... good point about too much height at the back...

I'll be scanning the bike classifieds for a '06 R6 rear shock... I think I also wanna do this mod to my RVF... :D

I look forward to your road test report...
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Alright! I got myself a shiny R6 shock :)
Now just need someone clever to tell me more bout the top mount so I could get it made to fit.
RVFHooligan how are you progressing on the matter? Would it be possible to buy the mount from you once ready?
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maciekmaciek19 wrote:Alright! I got myself a shiny R6 shock :)
Now just need someone clever to tell me more bout the top mount so I could get it made to fit.
RVFHooligan how are you progressing on the matter? Would it be possible to buy the mount from you once ready?
It's really not that big of a deal, and I'm not that clever :mrgreen: , you just need to fabricate an upper shock mount that is exactly 17.5mm longer than the standard unit. What this means is that the bolt that goes through the top of the shock and through the mount, the center of that bolt needs to be 17.5mm lower than the bolt on the stock unit. Doesn't matter how you do it, use shims, longer bolts, longer shock mount, find a longer mount, fabricate a mount, etc. That's it. I still haven't gone to the metal fabricator shop yet, maybe today or tomorrow. My plan is to get them to cut out a flat piece of metal on the Flow Jet with all the correct dimensions and holes and then have them bend it into a U shape on a heavy press. As I discovered on my "mock up" mount, 3/16" thick metal is hard to bend straight and get a perfect 90 degree angle at the top, and keep it nice and square. I did a lot of hammering and banging and broke the corner off my bench vise in the process. :evil: The stock mount has a bolt that is pressed in and welded and it has a very short round "head" to give the necessary clearance at the top of the standard shock eyelet. The new mount will be much longer so there will be plenty of clearance betwwen the bolt head and top of the shock eyelet. I plan on using a regular bolt here that is not welded in place so that I could always add shims/washers above or below the mount in the event that I have to change/alter the ride height in the future. I don't think this will be necessary, but I'm trying to cover all the bases. The stock mount is 3/16" thick metal and the width of the mount is 1 3/16" wide at the top of the mount and that is also the dimension of the recess in the bottom of the frame spar that the mount fits into. This prevents the upper mount from twisting when it is bolted in place. So that is the dimensions of the mount that I will have fabricated. More info in a day or two.

Oh yeah, I don't really think it would be cost effective for me to have more mounts made and ship them to the UK. It should be rather inexpensive and you should be able to find a shop in the UK, or anywhere else, rather easily that can make one.
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Easiest way would be to cut the existing bolt off, fit a longer bolt, weld it into place and grind enough of the head off so that it clears the shock.

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fastdruid wrote:Easiest way would be to cut the existing bolt off, fit a longer bolt, weld it into place and grind enough of the head off so that it clears the shock.

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You could do that, it would work, and then add 17.5mm of spacers between the mount and frame, that would work also. But if you were a sorry ass American like me, you'd want to keep the standard mount with the standard shock and pack them away safely in a box together as a matched pair. There is maybe a handful of these bikes over here and there are no spares or breakers. If I ever were to return the bike to 100% standard or sell the bike, I would want to have the standard parts. But since you have a "relative" surplus of parts in the UK, go to town on that standard mount, break out the angle grinder!
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Isn't it possible to replace the standard R6 top mount with a longer bolt and spacers?
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nakes wrote:Isn't it possible to replace the standard R6 top mount with a longer bolt and spacers?
No the R6 mount is machined as one solid piece and there is even less clearance between the mount and eyelet. see pics...........
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