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Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:17 am
by spooky
Do david silvers not do a collector box for the nc21 now then.
He has 2 in stock.
http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/parts/part_22696/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The rest is s/steel. no rot! 8-) 8-) 8-)

Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:17 pm
by Neosophist
CMSMJ1 wrote:
Neosophist wrote:You can think of it in refinement terms as...

the improvements the NC35 made over the NC30, are what the NC30 improves on compared to the NC21/24.
I don't agree with that to be honest mate.

A 35 is a face lifted 30 and pretty much the same animal.

the 21 and 24 are not the same animal and would be, for me, considered sports touring rather thah sports like the 30/35.

You would not really say that the rc24 is to the rc30 in the same way? Different animals for different purposes.

Aside from that - I would not turn down a cheap 21 or 24 - they are good bikes.
The NC24 is a sports bike, full on.

I own an NC35 and an NC24 and there both very sporty.

Honda billed the NC24 as a "Super Sports Bike," With sporty styling and superior sports performance.

http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1987/2870618.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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You can't really say thats a sports tourer.. riding one for more than an hours uncomfortable :P

Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:22 pm
by fastdruid
CMSMJ1 wrote:the 21 and 24 are not the same animal and would be, for me, considered sports touring rather thah sports like the 30/35.

You would not really say that the rc24 is to the rc30 in the same way? Different animals for different purposes.
Trouble is that the goal posts moved. At the time the RC24 was a full on sports bike not a sports tourer, the race version[0] was out there winning until the RC30 and the advent of WSB. The goal posts just moved[1] requiring something more than just a 'hot' version and so the RC30 was born, purely as a homologation race bike.

If you *compare* it to modern bikes then it would be considered a sports tourer as things have moved on but that doesn't mean it's not a sports bike.

The 400's are a different breed all together, inspired by the 750's and trying to be the 'best' of the class rather than designed for world racing like the RC30/45.

Druid

[0] Three AMA championships http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/classics/bike.asp?id=22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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[1] Suzuki bringing the race inspired GSXR750 out for one.

Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:14 am
by CMSMJ1
:o

it is the '24 mafia :scared:

Yeah, I hear you guys - I suppose the better way for me to have put it was that they are a different generation of bike and that the '30s both moved forwards

I agree that they were sports bike sin their time - Hell..the ZZR600 was supposed to be a sports bike..lol

The AMA RC24's were wicked too - there is some great youtube footage of them..

Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:17 pm
by Spike16
ofcourse you wouldnt be bias to that particular bike would you CMSMJ1 ;)

Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:28 pm
by CMSMJ1
Spike16 wrote:ofcourse you wouldnt be bias to that particular bike would you CMSMJ1 ;)
How VERY dare you!

I don't have 2 and a half NC30's in my garage...oh no.... :?

err..OK, I do..lol

All of the Honda V4 bikes are special..some are more special than others ;)

Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:32 pm
by Spike16
err no i was actually commenting on the certain ama 750 bike shown above, you have the 30's cos there just superior bikes in every way!!! :o


(that was a joke so dont burn me 24 mafia)

Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:39 pm
by CMSMJ1
Spike16 wrote:err no i was actually commenting on the certain ama 750 bike shown above, you have the 30's cos there just superior bikes in every way!!! :o


(that was a joke so dont burn me 24 mafia)
Roger that dude - In fact...I got my scheme from this kickass old skooler rather than that tourer :poke: :o (kidding.. - is that a horses head I see on my pillow?)

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Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:57 pm
by Spike16
ah yeh, sorry my mistake, question is which old racer would you rather ride to the south of france on? ;)


long way down or twist of the wrist? :poke:

oh dear, my profile says were i live...im not safe, someones gona ride over 200 miles on very 24 (in comfort :poke: ) pull out a gun (from their top box) and shoot my tyres out while im mid corner (knee, peg and elbow down) :o

:scared: lol

Re: nc21 - whats your view on that?

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:40 pm
by lange
CMSMJ1 wrote:
Neosophist wrote:You can think of it in refinement terms as...

the improvements the NC35 made over the NC30, are what the NC30 improves on compared to the NC21/24.
I don't agree with that to be honest mate.

A 35 is a face lifted 30 and pretty much the same animal.
Well then I don't agree with you. ;)

When I got my NC35's I compared the partslist for the NC30 and NC30 to figure out which NC30 parts could be used on the NC35.

There are hardly any parts which hasn't been changed. If we don't count in bolts and nuts I'm pretty sure there are many more parts that has been changed than there are parts which hasn't.

But I do agree that the NC30 and NC35 are 'the same kind of bikes' :D