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Re: Uh Oh!....Help/Advice urgent. *Pictures Now Added*

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:59 pm
by force-v4
Ive seen worse welded up. its worth a shot, its a 50/50 thing, you might be lucky, you might not, i'd get a head just in case. You weld a little block on, drill it & tap it - i cant see that piece of broken rubbish being welded back on. :whistle:

Re: Uh Oh!....Help/Advice urgent. *Pictures Now Added*

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:31 pm
by veefer400
Morespeedvicar wrote:Hi, could you drill down a bit further and tap the hole and use a longer stud? you have to be mega carefull not to hit the water jacket/oil ways! maybe worth a try if heads nakered already.
Cheers
Ian
This may work if you use the header clamp to line the drill up? I fear access may be a problem tho...

Überbodge: Is there any way you can strap the header to the head by using a very long jubilee-clip arrangement around the exhaust & back of the barrels so the bike can still be ridden without the header blowing?

Re: Uh Oh!....Help/Advice urgent. *Pictures Now Added*

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:41 pm
by ChowderV4
the header still has 3 nuts holding it on and i mate sure not to over tighten them so they pulled that part of the manifold away, so hopefully it will be ok for a short period of time.
The old man said there should be enough spare metal there to drill and tap it and just use longer studs.

I kinda want to avoid a new head as much as possible, as i neither have the time/skill nor the garage to drop the engine and replace the head. If i did i would have no form of transport for however long.
Im going to re-fit the rear pipes tomorrow as long as the weathers good and i'll check if/or how much its blowing.

Re: Uh Oh!....Help/Advice urgent. *Pictures Now Added*

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:57 pm
by CMSMJ1
You can swap the head with the engine in the frame...it is not as difficult as you think... ;)

A dirty bodge for now but I'd be worried about further damage and cracks spreading with the additional vibration.

sort it in the summer.. :mrgreen:

Re: Uh Oh!....Help/Advice urgent. *Pictures Now Added*

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:59 pm
by ChowderV4
CMSMJ1 wrote:You can swap the head with the engine in the frame...it is not as difficult as you think... ;)

A dirty bodge for now but I'd be worried about further damage and cracks spreading with the additional vibration.

sort it in the summer.. :mrgreen:
Oh god im not leaving it until the summer, if i have to swap a head i will, it will be done by spring.
gives me a chance to do valve clearances too....first i need an abba stand though. Currently borrowing one of a friend, they are amazing!

Re: Uh Oh!....Help/Advice urgent. *Pictures Now Added*

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:16 pm
by Alex_ludd
I feel your pain I have the exact same problem on my right down pipe
I'm runnng a full tyga system so its blowing a lot

I did a rough repair job in august mines not as bad as yours I only lost half the thread
Did a weld job to fix this has now failed :( so I'm looking at a new head

And I just did my valve clearences so not happy
just wondering if you guys know wether all rear nc 30 heads are interchangeable i.e. a later head
on an 89 engine

Cheers alex

Re: Uh Oh!....Help/Advice urgent. *Pictures Now Added*

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:43 pm
by CMSMJ1
All heads the same. ;)

If you want to ride down you can come and have a spare one of mine...todmorden in't that far away..

Re: Uh Oh!....Help/Advice urgent. *Pictures Now Added*

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:21 pm
by Neosophist
I'd repair it with some lumiweld etc rather than replace the cylinder head if you can't afford the time / expense of a stripdown.

http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8823

It will be more than good enough to hold the exhaust stud providing you dont' torque it up to the extreme.



Very similar to this kind of thing.

Re: Uh Oh!....Help/Advice urgent. *Pictures Now Added*

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:04 pm
by Alex_ludd
CMSMJ1 wrote:All heads the same. ;)
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</BR>If you want to ride down you can come and have a spare one of mine...todmorden in't that far away..
That would be great I should be free this weekend if that's ok with you
Neosophist wrote:I'd repair it with some lumiweld etc rather than replace the cylinder head if you can't afford the time / expense of a stripdown.
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I used lumi weld the to repair it first worked fine but its now failed I could do it again
but it will probably fail again

Cheers alex