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Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:57 pm
by Andy
Variablevalves suck wrote:Good to hear!
Could be just wear in the carbs but lowering the throttle tickover and lifting it back up with a little more on the pilot screws could help. theres a link to a book ive got that just happens to show the carb section, could be of help to ya.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4FHL ... q=&f=false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chris.
Cheers Chris

Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:02 pm
by Andy
Hey,
The pipes have finally turned up at last so i`ve set to and fitted them only to find that the link pipe supplied dont fit.....

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The outside diameter is 54 mm,has anybody got one for sale or tips where to get one would be handy.I`m going to run twin pipes again eventually but for the time being just the one
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Thank`s
Andy :grin:

Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:49 pm
by Variablevalves suck
54mm is an odd size! 99% of pipe work is o/d sized and so 2"/50.8mm. Can you not get the welder guy you know to roll some sheet to make an adapter and weld it to your link pipe, if your anywhere near stoke i could make one no problem as ive tig/mig welders.

Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:18 pm
by Andy
Hey,

While i was happy with the running etc i thought i would do some of the smaller job`s on the list such as a small oil leak on the output shaft so a new seal was duly ordered and a new clutch pushrod seal also(silly not to considering the price,peanuts!) .These were fitted at a mate`s workshop i`ve tired of rolling around on the floor!

Mmmmm,just the usual checks etc while the tank was of again and we found a distinct lack of coolant(cue worrying to start),topping up and running the bike down the road and back produced the same low level and i`d noticed a drop in performance,the best i can describe it is like the bike was pulling through treacle or suchlike(sorry for the description)almost lazy but still quite torquey.....

One compression test later and my fears were confirmed:
1,150psi

2,65psi

3, 65psi

4,150psi

The next question on my mind now was head or barrels...? :(

A leak-down test revealed 1 to be ok(100 psi) 2,17 psi/3 12psi/4,100psi.
It looks like the head gasket or a crack in the head itself the really bizarre thing is when pressure was applied to no2 pressure leaked from no3 and vice versa i`m banking on the head gasket :pray: .
While its in bit`s again i plan to have the barrels skimmed and the cam wheels slotted so when it go`s back together i will have the squish i want and the timing dialed in right for a change.......of course this all depends on the barrels being good/serviceable and the way my luck is going at the moment you`ll forgive me if i dont hold my breath!!!!! :|
Anyway less of the bitching and i would seriously appreciate any pointers from the more knowlegable guys on here,thank`s

Andy :grin:

Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:32 pm
by knight1077
Andy wrote:Hey,

While i was happy with the running etc i thought i would do some of the smaller job`s on the list such as a small oil leak on the output shaft so a new seal was duly ordered and a new clutch pushrod seal also(silly not to considering the price,peanuts!) .These were fitted at a mate`s workshop i`ve tired of rolling around on the floor!

Mmmmm,just the usual checks etc while the tank was of again and we found a distinct lack of coolant(cue worrying to start),topping up and running the bike down the road and back produced the same low level and i`d noticed a drop in performance,the best i can describe it is like the bike was pulling through treacle or suchlike(sorry for the description)almost lazy but still quite torquey.....

One compression test later and my fears were confirmed:
1,150psi

2,65psi

3, 65psi

4,150psi

The next question on my mind now was head or barrels...? :(

A leak-down test revealed 1 to be ok(100 psi) 2,17 psi/3 12psi/4,100psi.
It looks like the head gasket or a crack in the head itself the really bizarre thing is when pressure was applied to no2 pressure leaked from no3 and vice versa i`m banking on the head gasket :pray: .
While its in bit`s again i plan to have the barrels skimmed and the cam wheels slotted so when it go`s back together i will have the squish i want and the timing dialed in right for a change.......of course this all depends on the barrels being good/serviceable and the way my luck is going at the moment you`ll forgive me if i dont hold my breath!!!!! :|
Anyway less of the bitching and i would seriously appreciate any pointers from the more knowlegable guys on here,thank`s

Andy :grin:
hi andy if it turns out to be the barrels i have a set with pistons if you need them.
anthony

Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:11 pm
by Andy
hi andy if it turns out to be the barrels i have a set with pistons if you need them.
anthony[/quote]
P.M me a price please Anthony

Good to know mate,thank`s.....dont suppose anybody know`s the cam timing on a 73 do they please :pray:

Cheer`s
Andy :grin:

Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:16 pm
by knight1077
variablevalves is on with one at the mo so think he might be the man to ask about the timing, will have a look how much postage is and get back to you mate.

Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:35 pm
by Andy
knight1077 wrote:variablevalves is on with one at the mo so think he might be the man to ask about the timing, will have a look how much postage is and get back to you mate.

Cheer`s Anthony :grin:

Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:48 pm
by Andy
Right,strip complete LET THE NIGHTMARE BEGIN!

Head;
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Barrel;

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Worse than i ever imagined but i`ve got to be honest i`m not surprised really....bores are in a shocking state(hope the barrels are good Anthony!)the valves are barely seating and i`m amazed how much performance i actually got from the money pit.

Not entirely sure which way to go forward at the moment,the rebuild will be astronomical cost wise unless i can locate a good second hand head/barrel`s etc. All the valves are fooked to be honest and the seats are in need of recutting to make sevicable again and i`m not a great advocate of this process(sinks the valve in further).The ports have that much shit in them dipping would be the only way to clean them,the alternative being hour`s with the dremel(no thank`s)....thoroughly pissed off at the moment!

Any ideas/second hand parts/tip`s etc greatly appreciated

Thank`s
Andy :cry:

Re: Carb advice needed.....

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:34 pm
by knight1077
hi andy

i think i have a head with valves in it too mate but no cams will get on it tomorrow and let you know just had a bit of a mad one to day (pregnant wife, screaming toddler and a job list as long as my arm) will e-mail you the info and some pics.