Sounds fair.

All i meant was that the NC can be a a real pain to bleed, more so than most other bikes.

If you've don it properly with still no luck then I guess it could be knackered.

now ive defended myself so much i hope it is gubbed lol!!!!!!!
what i will do is get one off ebay or a rebuild kit and hopefully then it will work but if it doesnt then its obviously me bleeding it wrong.....but as always the comments were great coz it made me think that maybe i hadnt bled them right so i went back and done them again today but obviously still no luck.i'll post the outcome when i get one and fit it. :D :D

btw, who is this Sod fellow, is he related to Murphy?

lol!!!!!yeah a nasty fecker he is :D :D :D

If a master cylnder moves freely and doesnt pi$$ out brake fluid it is OK.

There is nothing that can go wrong with them other then the seals blow (Leaks fluid)or the plunger freezes in bore(Won't move)

There is a high point at the top of the hoses where they connect to the master cylinder that traps an air bubble.
Bleed it at the top where the lines first bolt on or take the master cylinder off the bars, orient it so that the barrel of the master cylinder is up at the lever end and leave it that way for a while so that the air bubbles can work their way up to the resivour.

best solution is a HRC Bleeder replace the master banjo with this, bleed it there and problem solved.

regards
jon

You think the NC30 brakes are a pain to bleed!

Try the linked brakes on a CBR1000F they are unreal! The use of a vacuum bleeder is required and you have to bleed the rear when doing the front and vice versa -totally wacky!

its official.....IM A RETARD!!!!!
i got the master cylinder through the post from viper biker(good stuff),so i fitted it the next day and yep you's pretty much called it guys.....still the same.i bled them for a good 30 mins at the calipers and nothing,no resistance at the lever at all.
cmsj1 is spot on with the bleed them at the m/c as well,the air that came out was unbelievable...........after a few attempts the lever was starting to produce some firmness.
there was obviously a air pocket in the m/c that wasnt shifting like jon says and i could have bled the brakes all day and it wouldnt have made a blind bit of difference.........
so if anyone experiences this always bleed them at the m/c as well,coz i know i will.......
my apologies to everyone....cheers guys!!!!!!
p.s....thats me back on the road now :D :D :D

LOL - Retard!

Well...at least you know now... and next time this is posted you can do like I did...and share the knowledge hard earned from trying to sort i myself :D