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Re: rvf model info

Post by Davez29 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:58 am

Ok im not an nc35 expert but here is my opinion.

There were 2 models, as mentioned. Now these 2 models also had a "ll" version, similar to the cbr400rr-r and cbr400rr-rll. Now the only difference i can find with the cbr is in the fact they have different speedos. What that difference is i dont know but at a guess, i would guess that different islands of Japan had different rules and the speedos had to conform. Of course this may well apply to the cbr as its a Jap only model but i dont know if the 35 was eventually a legal import into the Uk in which case it could be a uk mph speedo giving it its "ll" status.

My suggestion is you search the parts book, the answer may be there.

Edit. Just checked the parts book and there are 2 speedos for each model ;-)

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Re: rvf model info

Post by mo haggs » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:17 am

aahh, now we're making progress.

i had a scan over the parts list and could only see a few bolts and brackets that were different for the rr and rt but i would never have thought of speedos
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Re: rvf model info

Post by mo haggs » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:42 am

CRM wrote:there were some minor part differences if i recall. gearbox, and something else.
gearboxes identical according to parts list
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Re: rvf model info

Post by mo haggs » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:49 am

Durka, the speedo and instrument sub loom are different. mph/kph could be the answer.

j model clock assy is near £800
j2 model clock assy - request a price :scare:
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Re: rvf model info

Post by CRM » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:50 am

speedos were all kph though it was only the uk 30 that came with a genuine mph one.
as for gearbox's between rr and rt, i recall there being a list of superceeded part numbers of changes somewhere.
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Re: rvf model info

Post by mo haggs » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:03 pm

you may well be right.
other than the obvious paint schemes -
the only changes i saw where silly things like info stickers (helmet holder), rear shock shroud, rear hub pinch bolt, a few screws/bolts and brackets.
and of course the speedo and sub loom in the respective j and j2 models.
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Re: rvf model info

Post by Neosophist » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:21 pm

mo haggs wrote:
Neosophist wrote:I can't remember off hand what the -II / -III suffix's are, I think just a different paint scheme.
so does that mean there are two rr scheme's and two rt schemes with some suttle differences that go largely un-noticed? :news:
It's not paint code...

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I'll have to check what it means.
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Re: rvf model info

Post by Davez29 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:46 pm

If its right that the NC35 was the same as the NC29 in that they were Jap only models I guess it was just something to do with internal Japanese laws. The only possible way to be sure would be to find an NC35 that had its ID sticker end in "II". For instance my bike sticker says CBR400RRR, so I would be looking for a bike that says CBR400RRR-II.

If you do find out what is different post it up and inform me as I would like to know.

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Re: rvf model info

Post by Neosophist » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:01 pm

Durka Durka wrote:If its right that the NC35 was the same as the NC29 in that they were Jap only models I guess it was just something to do with internal Japanese laws. The only possible way to be sure would be to find an NC35 that had its ID sticker end in "II". For instance my bike sticker says CBR400RRR, so I would be looking for a bike that says CBR400RRR-II.

If you do find out what is different post it up and inform me as I would like to know.

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Durka Durka wrote:Ok im not an nc35 expert but here is my opinion.

There were 2 models, as mentioned. Now these 2 models also had a "ll" version, similar to the cbr400rr-r and cbr400rr-rll. Now the only difference i can find with the cbr is in the fact they have different speedos. What that difference is i dont know but at a guess, i would guess that different islands of Japan had different rules and the speedos had to conform. Of course this may well apply to the cbr as its a Jap only model but i dont know if the 35 was eventually a legal import into the Uk in which case it could be a uk mph speedo giving it its "ll" status.

My suggestion is you search the parts book, the answer may be there.

Edit. Just checked the parts book and there are 2 speedos for each model ;-)
The licencing law is the same throughout Japan.

The NC30 came with a UK speedo / European speedo / Japanese speedo as it was sold in all 3 demographics.

The NC35 was a JDM only bike so would have had one speedo only.

I think the -I -II means a later revision from that year perhaps.

i.e the early NC24 (RH) had 112/115 jets, the later RH-II had 115 all around some slightly revised camshafts etc.

Most likely that

RR: 93 bike RR-I (some kind of change made)
RT: 94 bike RT-II (some kind of change made)

I don't believe there were any significant overhauls to the bike between years / revisions so it's most likely simple things, if you look in the original parts book you may find some parts were superceeded on newer models.
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Re: rvf model info

Post by Davez29 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:28 pm

I agree there will be minor changes but why do the nc29 and the nc35 have two types of speedos? I believe this is the main change responsible for the "ll" designation as its the only thing common to these two bikes reading the fiche. May be not related but the nc29 was priced different in different parts of Japan.

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