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Timing advancement / removing stator-alternator?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:25 am
by doodleface
Does anyone know if advancing your timing by 2 degrees can potentially give you a bit more HP? I've read a few people talking about it on different bikes with different carb setups but never been explained why, or what the downside is, or how it can actually extract more power...

Since it was a race bike i'm also thinking of removing the stator and/or alternator, but how much extra hp can that give you?

The bike is at the mechanic right now getting ripped apart so now is the best time to find out and do something about it, especially the advanced timing. I'm happy to try it, and the engine never gets all that hot, its radiators are working well if heat was an issue. Is engine life going to suffer?

Thanks all.
James.

Re: Timing advancement / removing stator-alternator?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:39 am
by Cammo
doodleface wrote: Since it was a race bike i'm also thinking of removing the stator and/or alternator, but how much extra hp can that give you?
It won't give you any more power. The engine will spin up faster but loses some inertia so starts are a bit more difficult. Some people prefer it, I didn't.

Also depends what class you're racing in, most in Oz require a working charging system to be fitted. ;)

Re: Timing advancement / removing stator-alternator?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:26 am
by Neosophist
Speak to Kev at Projex (hes a member on here.. kevprojex)

If I remember rightly, for his RVF track bike, he elongated the holes and manually advanced his timing until he found the sweet spot, made quite a difference to the bike too (perhaps not more power but smoother curve)

Re: Timing advancement / removing stator-alternator?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:31 am
by kevprojex
I would advance the ignition rotor more than 2deg , i advanced my old nc30 about 6-7deg, it lifted the midrange power from 7-11k by about 2.5bhp and gave about 1bhp up top, removing the rotor and windings showed 1bhp gain and lost about 2kilos off the bike.