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Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:03 pm
by sotto
Hi,

Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral when selecting it and when the bike is idling...its not something major just a point of interest cos i've been trying like hell at the traffic lights and no luck, but when the bike is cold and i try before i start it slides in, easy as pie.

I've adjusted my clutch (on the clutch lever side) so that it engages quickly when i release the clutch lever, it suits me fine, but could be affecting me selecting neutral.

If it is common then nevermind (if you know please explain), but i have to ask, thanks.

Re: Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:06 pm
by Smev
Yes its very common mate!!!

I've had that issue with all my NC's

I find a blip on the throttle helps to try to engage it, while holding the clutch in and a bit up upward pressure on the gear lever.

:grin:

Re: Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:08 pm
by Drunkn Munky
Check where the shift lever clamps to the spline by your left foot, the dot on the spline should line up with the cut out on the clamp. If its not this can cause the problem.

Re: Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:17 pm
by sotto
Smev wrote:Yes its very common mate!!!

I've had that issue with all my NC's

I find a blip on the throttle helps to try to engage it, while holding the clutch in and a bit up upward pressure on the gear lever.

:grin:
I'll admin that this does work for me, but i see it as a temp solution, i'll look for the dot and adjust accordingly. :up:

Re: Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:21 pm
by arsey30
The clutch plates can wear grooves in the clutch basket, causing the plates to wedge and bind.
The grooves can be files smooth or a new basket fitted, depending how deep the grooves are.
Try snicking into neutral just before coming to rest, sometimes it is easier to engage neutral from second gear, not first.

Rolling the bike back and forth sometimes helps whilst trying to engage neutral.

Dave.

Re: Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:19 pm
by hunter
When i bought my nc30 new it had the same problem.

Re: Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:46 pm
by sotto
hunter wrote:When i bought my nc30 new it had the same problem.
That's off-putting for me anyway. But I guess I can live with it, I'll try to adjust to gear selector and shaft properly so they line up if that doesn't work, and I'll check the clutch basket for ware and tear, if all is well then so be it, no use trying to flog a dead horse. Guess you guys won't be hearing from me for a while, so much to work so little time.

Thanks gents for the heads up.

Re: Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:54 pm
by arsey30
If the clutch basket is worn, the clutch will drag and try to pull the bike forward when in gear with the clutch lever pulled in i.e disengaged.

If it does not, and you can let the clutch in [lever] part way without it engaging, then the basket is not the problem.

Dave.

Re: Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:58 am
by tanto
hunter wrote:When i bought my nc30 new it had the same problem.
Thanks. That's re-assuring for me! Same issue with my bike. Finding neutral is more problematic when the engine is warm, but one throttle blip and it slips in fine. I guess it's something to do with the gearbox/clutch design?

Re: Is it common for vfr's not to find neutral...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:40 am
by sil3nt
I've had my NC30 just over a week. Took me a week to get around to searching this site and finding that it's normal and all you need to do is blip the throttle to around 3k rpm and it goes straight in! Was very annoying for that first week :whistle: