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Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:28 pm
by Cammo
NC30Dubz wrote:Ok. It could be fuel starvation aswell thinking about it, but I wouldn't understand why? Yes, it was on the road, took it for a run after fitting the jets and washers, was fine on a low speed run but as soon as I went full twist, the bike didn't like it
Did you put the fuel vacuum line back on the tap? Fuel tap to 'On', etc?

Check that each vacuum slide is springing back properly after you raise them up with your fingers. If the slide covers are not on properly the slides won't work.

Those size jets will be fine, even if they were slightly too large (not likely) it won't cause the symptoms you describe.

Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:26 am
by NC30Dubz
Thanks,

The vacuum hose is on, and as for the slides, I do teat the carbs before I put them back on and one of them did stick but released itself after a few minutes, is there a way I can grease these up so they move more freely?

Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:54 pm
by NC30Dubz
Just taken it apart again, the slides are moving, I checked the pilot screws , moved them to 2.25 turns, and it's still bogging down in the high rpm, could it be that I should set the screws to 2 turns? Just a thought, the main jets I'm using (120's) are off an old set of carbs I had and look a bit.. used, could it be that be used they're old and used that they could be hindering the flow of fuel? I'm in the process of ordering a new set of 118's and 120's as I've been told that they are the best set up to use.. any help is appreciated! Thanks.

Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:14 pm
by mrpaintdude
That looks like a proper thorough step by step guide. I'm having major flat spot issues on my NC30, any chance you can send me a PDF copy?

Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:40 am
by Cammo
mrpaintdude wrote: I'm having major flat spot issues on my NC30, any chance you can send me a PDF copy?
PM sent with a link to the document library: http://www.400greybike.com/docs.htm

Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:05 pm
by britaxcooper
NC30Dubz wrote:I've got a yamamoto half system with a stubby exhaust, yes its a standard intake minus a bit of the plastic, there is 1 washer as standard on all the needles, added an extra 0.5mm washer to each at the same time as the jets.
I've just fitted a Yamamoto system with a very free flowing silencer.

Just checked the mains and theyre 120 all round.

I've not ran the bike yet, but I'm guessing I will need to change the mains? Would I be advised to fit 122's in the rear carbs and leave the fronts at 120?
I'm going to do the other mods on the first page of this thread at the same time.

Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:30 pm
by Cammo
I would just leave them at 120 all round, should be well suited to your setup.

Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:20 am
by GeeTee
Damn.. after re-reading the DIY guide I just spotted the 0.5mm needle washers, and my needles have no washer fitted at the moment. My carbs were in an awful state of tune (the whole bike was), and I stripped, cleaned and rebuilt them a few weeks back. It had 125 mains all round and pilot screws were all over the place, set between 1.5 and 3 turns out with no two the same. I've drilled the slides, gone back to 118/120 mains and reset pilots to 2.25 turns out. The engine is stock NC30 with a Delkavic carbon can + K&N filter. Seems to start really well now and tickover is nice and steady. It has a very slight flat spot just off idle when I snap the throttle. I'm wondering if the lack of needle washer could be the culprit, but can't be arsed to strip it again to fix it. I've a trackday booked at brands on the 30th April, and considering running it as is and fine tune it afterwards.. maybe on a Dyno. I've got loads of new stuff fitted to bed in (tyres,brake pads, new discs all round, suspension upgrades to dial in etc..) so won't be pushing it anyway.

Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:50 am
by Cammo
GeeTee wrote:Damn.. after re-reading the DIY guide I just spotted the 0.5mm needle washers, and my needles have no washer fitted at the moment.

I've got loads of new stuff fitted to bed in ... so won't be pushing it anyway.
I wouldn't worry too much, the lack of washer won't affect the high rpm fuelling at all, though you might find it will affect the rideability (lean) in the fuelling transition from needle to main jet (around 7-10,000 rpm).

Might be an idea to pack the washers and take some tools with you to the track!

Re: NC30 carby jetting - DIY guide

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:44 pm
by GeeTee
I'll try to ride it as is on the day and tackle it when I get home. I could easily spend half the session in the garage if I decide to pull carbs off. The rear cylinder slide covers are pretty accessable on the bike, but the front ones are well hidden. I'm wonderng if the bigger 125 mains were masking the fact that the washers were missing. I was running the bike on a small 1/2 litre tank suspended from garage roof. So it could be a fuel starvation issue due to lack of fuel flow.