Restricted?

[Cammo]

I've also seen the hrc boxes advertised as changing the timing - absolute bollocks. The nc30 hrc cdi is the bit that made most of these differences, and very rare.

I want an ignitech - anything to be able to plug may laptop into the bike at the track and look more professional! Good kit.

[atac]

Hi, i am new here, come from Austria (sorry for my bad english) and bought yesterday a NC30. I am looking for a HRC CDI for the NC30 (which allovs revs +1k rpm to 15.5k). How it looks like? In this pic you see a "HRC CDI" which replaces the stock one. But in the same HRC manual on pic on page 18 is a CDI 30491-NKA-000, which looks totally different . This is the "HRC CDI" which will be install in serial to the stock cdi. Can someone help me in this part,whats the rigtht one, and what is the differernce between them.Thanks.

None of them are HRC CDIs - they are speed deristrictors. The HRC CDI replaces the standard NC30 CDI and looks like this (note the different shape to standard CDI):



Very 'Special' indeed

[CMSMJ1]

@ Atac - there is an inline box that removes the speed limiter (180kmh) and that is all.

The actual, CDI is nowhere to be found and you are better to spend your money on an ignitech CDI.

[atac]

On the german Model (which i have) and the austrian there was never been a speed restrictor. Honda Austria offers a full HRC KIT which includes some parts like Exhaust, Carburator, needles jets, fuel tap, CDI, Cam, Airbox, air inlet etc and some other stuff. I am looking for a CDI from that KIT. On the official HRC Part list for the 1992 NC30 is on page 18 a inlet box described!! which will be installed in serial to an common with the stock CDI.
Now i read here, that this inlet box will be only a speed derestrictor? I am little confused, because why should they offer a deristrictor box if Austrian and german models never been restricted?

2. ignitech-maybe good idea- its the HRC ignition curve the same as on the real HRC cdi (wich ever will be that:-)

Thanks for help

@ Atac - there is an inline box that removes the speed limiter (180kmh) and that is all.

The actual, CDI is nowhere to be found and you are better to spend your money on an ignitech CDI.

[porndoguk]

if you that set for one, ill sell you my HRC unit for £150 +P&P?



there are the back of the bike, the cable tie is just there to attach it to the metal retaining clip.

[CMSMJ1]

On the german Model (which i have) and the austrian there was never been a speed restrictor. Honda Austria offers a full HRC KIT which includes some parts like Exhaust, Carburator, needles jets, fuel tap, CDI, Cam, Airbox, air inlet etc and some other stuff. I am looking for a CDI from that KIT. On the official HRC Part list for the 1992 NC30 is on page 18 a inlet box described!! which will be installed in serial to an common with the stock CDI.
Now i read here, that this inlet box will be only a speed derestrictor? I am little confused, because why should they offer a deristrictor box if Austrian and german models never been restricted?

2. ignitech-maybe good idea- its the HRC ignition curve the same as on the real HRC cdi (wich ever will be that:-)

Thanks for help

@ Atac - there is an inline box that removes the speed limiter (180kmh) and that is all.

The actual, CDI is nowhere to be found and you are better to spend your money on an ignitech CDI.

This is exactly it - the reason the box, to be fitted in serial is added, is so you can remove the speedometer without the bike going into the limp home mode. This is where the bike cuts to 2 cylinders at 5.5k revs.

Unplug the wiring from the speedo and see if you can go over 5.5k revs. You cannot..so this is the reason for tnat box. It is called the SP box and not a CDI.

The actual CDI is extremely rare - I cannot remember if I have ever heard of anyone on here, in recent times, seeing one, let alone owning one.

A few of us have an Ignitech CDI - do a quick search as we had a thread on here. If you want one, then perhaps it is best to contact Rick Oliver (one of our members and a Honda employee....) Rick can supply the ignitech with what we all agree is a very good map - based on the HRC maps.

[atac]

ah slowly comes light in my darkness. OK its called SP box. Questions :
- with added sp box the ignition curve/ rev limit is the same as stock (without speed limit)?
a german dealer told me, that part allows a increase of ~1 krpm to 15.5 (stock 14.5) is this right?
- a increase rev up to 15.5 plus ignition time +4 degree only allows the rare right HRC CDI as replacement for the stock cdi, correct?

[porndoguk]

ah slowly comes light in my darkness. OK its called SP box. Questions :
- with added sp box the ignition curve/ rev limit is the same as stock (without speed limit)?
a german dealer told me, that part allows a increase of ~1 krpm to 15.5 (stock 14.5) is this right?
- a increase rev up to 15.5 plus ignition time +4 degree only allows the rare right HRC CDI as replacement for the stock cdi, correct?

the SP box, is somewhat subject to controversy,
as if you have read back i was subject to said argument which im not getting into again,

people will say all it does is remove the speedo,

where as on the other hand id disagree,

Would HONDA HRC build a weighty box when you could just add a resistor to a racebike?
500g vs 1g?

would, they sell it with over a £200 price tag again for a 14p resistor?

the idea of HRC wasnt about profit it was supplying RACE parts. with a nasty price tag.

-i am led to believe that it changes the rev limit, 14.5k to 15.5k
-change the map (midrange curve posibly) as its does strictly say NOT FOR ROAD USE (IE RACE ONLY)
-so that the noise restrictions, emisions etc are for race would therefore change
-removes the speed limit,

again there are no documents to support whats said so make your own assumption but i made mine on the above fact

WOULD HONDA HRC build a weighty box when you could just add a resistor to a racebike?
500g vs 1g? £200+ vs 14p?

[CMSMJ1]

ah slowly comes light in my darkness. OK its called SP box. Questions :
- with added sp box the ignition curve/ rev limit is the same as stock (without speed limit)? YES
a german dealer told me, that part allows a increase of ~1 krpm to 15.5 (stock 14.5) is this right? NO
- a increase rev up to 15.5 plus ignition time +4 degree only allows the rare right HRC CDI as replacement for the stock cdi, correct? YES - but you cannot get the HRC CDI for the NC30 any more..or if you can it is big money

Also, to add - if you really really have to have a HRC CDi then you can convert the NC30 to run an NC35 loom, ignition pickups and tacho..and then find and fit an NC35 HRC CDI.

Not worth the hassle..the Ignitech is programmable by you..as much as you like on your laptop. It makes no sense to try and find the HRC kit when it is 20 years old and has been superseded by newer, more accessible and reprogrammable kit..

[Drunkn Munky]

+ do you really want a full blown HRC map on a stock engine? cant see the point in that myself its design to work with a far from stock motor.

rick has developed a modified HRC map that runs on the ignitechs thats proven to run well on more stock motors, its a no brainer really.