MOT failed, knew it.. but, any help?

[V4beermonster]

So, you have just replaced the rear brake line as the other wore through on the back wheel/tyre
But now the replacement is catching on something else. The worst thing is instead of admitting that YOU have fcuked up again, you have the audacity to call the mot guy a retard......
Beyond belief.
If it only wanted tie wraping out of the way, why didn't you do it..:...

I can't be bothered going through the other stuff, most of it is quite basic.

Seriously, leave the bike off the road & get a bus pass until you find someone with the time & patience to help explain the basics of motorcycle maintenance.

[xivlia]

Pip, you have no idea what you are saying.... the other brake line i had was touching the rear exhaust pipe and it burnt a hole through it. the current one i have now, isn't getting caught on ANYTHING. the guy just said to me it has potential TO get caught on moving pats. i.e the wheel. which is fixable with cable tie... the reason WHY i did not do it because I had NO cable ties... there was some in my room, which my brother used for his bike without telling me, and i found that out before the MOT. and yes i ofcourse i checked sutff on the bike, but lets be serious.... i did not know that a missing screw on the front screen or a minute movement on the screen brace, would be marked down as dangerous (008). they are not even suppose to check fairings on an MOT test, i googled everything, mot-pre checks etc and none talks about fairings. i was told by a friend of my who has bikes, that the bike could go through MOT without fairings...

and so you know, this is my second MOT test ever on this bike... first time last year it failed with only fork seals leaking.. it still had MOST of the same shit as it had now, it still had the bend bars, moving switch gear, sticking throttle, higher dip beam..... the only difference was it was a different guy testing it.

[pip]

Pip, you have no idea what you are saying.... the other brake line i had was touching the rear exhaust pipe and it burnt a hole through it. the current one i have now, isn't getting caught on ANYTHING. the guy just said to me it has potential TO get caught on moving pats. i.e the wheel. which is fixable with cable tie... the reason WHY i did not do it because I had NO cable ties... there was some in my room, which my brother used for his bike without telling me, and i found that out before the MOT. and yes i ofcourse i checked sutff on the bike, but lets be serious.... i did not know that a missing screw on the front screen or a minute movement on the screen brace, would be marked down as dangerous (008). they are not even suppose to check fairings on an MOT test, i googled everything, mot-pre checks etc and none talks about fairings. i was told by a friend of my who has bikes, that the bike could go through MOT without fairings...

and so you know, this is my second MOT test ever on this bike... first time last year it failed with only fork seals leaking.. it still had MOST of the same shit as it had now, it still had the bend bars, moving switch gear, sticking throttle, higher dip beam..... the only difference was it was a different guy testing it.

And that is exactly why you sell/lay the bike up......

Pip

[CMSMJ1]

Now then mate..bit of a bummer this eh?

The simple fixes are where you need to start - I probably have a spare bar I can send you, I will dig it out.

The fixings of fairings and so on - basically - if something is fitted to the bike it must be secure. Simple as that.

Sorting the bike out so it is safe is the bottom line. We all take the piss a bit, but I don't doubt we would all be very shamed if you hurt yourself due to the bike being dodgy. We are all on here (apart from the grooming kiddly fiddlers) to talk about our bikes and we all have a bond through that. No-one wants to hear that a stuck throttle or bodywork falling off has caused any troubles!

Take your time on it, winter now, it is dark all the time in Inverness now eh?

[xivlia]

Now then mate..bit of a bummer this eh?

The simple fixes are where you need to start - I probably have a spare bar I can send you, I will dig it out.

The fixings of fairings and so on - basically - if something is fitted to the bike it must be secure. Simple as that.

Sorting the bike out so it is safe is the bottom line. We all take the piss a bit, but I don't doubt we would all be very shamed if you hurt yourself due to the bike being dodgy. We are all on here (apart from the grooming kiddly fiddlers) to talk about our bikes and we all have a bond through that. No-one wants to hear that a stuck throttle or bodywork falling off has caused any troubles!

Take your time on it, winter now, it is dark all the time in Inverness now eh?

thanks for the bar, but i have SES ally bars and clip-ons, unles you have one of those too . they are cheap on ebay, 10 pounds for one bar.

i will definitely take my time, and yes its getting dark at 4pm.... its not even fully light right now!.

[porndoguk]

ill post you some cable ties.

You need to get your priorities right, it sounds like youve given up.

You always moan about it being off the road or having no money.

If you repair the bike with in the next 10working days a retest is usually free.

However if you lay it up your going to have to waste more money on MOT,

Get it fixed and get out on it stop fucking around with computer desks that is GAY

Rick

[Drunkn Munky]

You remind me of myself when i was 17, 1st bike and thought i could fix/modify my bike armed with zero knowledge and my step dads wood working tools. To be honest i was dam lucky i never killed myself or anyone else for that matter with my bodge jobs, i was just lucky my brother was around occasionally to get me out of the shit and give me a bloody good bollocking for being a prick, which i was and admit to.

Moral of the story, give it up and pay someone to do it, it may well save your life. I honestly dont think you have the gumption to know whats right and what isnt which isnt a dig at you, your young and inexperienced and have to learn somehow but this isnt the way. The fact that after everything(100's of pages of posts) you still send(or did you ride it?!!!!) your bike for a MOT in that state, the petrol tank was loose FFS and you knew it! I honestly think its time to admit defeat. Trying to do it all on a showstring budget isnt helping either which i know isnt your fault by please take a step back and think about if you really have the skills to do this safely. Id hate to read about the young chap whose 2nd head on accident with a car didnt end so well.

[thunderace]

they are not even suppose to check fairings on an MOT test, i googled everything, mot-pre checks etc and none talks about fairings. i was told by a friend of my who has bikes, that the bike could go through MOT without fairings...

and so you know, this is my second MOT test ever on this bike... first time last year it failed with only fork seals leaking.. it still had MOST of the same shit as it had now, it still had the bend bars, moving switch gear, sticking throttle, higher dip beam..... the only difference was it was a different guy testing it.

1. Google has lied to you. If fairings are fitted they must be secure. Yes technically the bike could go for MOT without fairings but if that was the case, you'd also have to remove all the brackets and make the clocks subframe more pedestrian friendly, ie; remove all sharp protrusions, and re-fit the indicators or remove them completely including the switch.

2. Loose switchgear, sticking throttle and misaligned headlight beams SHOULD have failed your bike last year. Based on the fact that it passed, I wouldn't be using that garage if it were the last in the country.

[Neosophist]

Before it turns into a big debate about what should have been done and what shouldnt, it's already too late, the test is done.

I am curious though as you said you knew it would fail but didn't expect the list to be so big? Why risk pissing away money in the first place when you are always complaning you have none, ask on here or get a copy of things likely to be checked, take your time and go through them slowly, if your unsure you can ask on here. Better that than throw money away.


Most people would agree that it is silly to rush to take a bike to a test when you know it will fail, for example if you knew you needed to tie things down why take it if you hadn't done so?

Same goes with the fairings, you must have knew they were loose otherwise why would you state something about them not needing to be checked?

Firstly, RE the fairings, the MOT tester cannot remove panels unless it is nessary to test some component, they can and will shake them to ensure that they don't seem loose or insecure, you might be calling the guy a retard but imagine you goto a bike meetup, you ride in a convey and all of a sudden your upper side cowl flies off, becuase you are in a close pack it hits the guy behind you in the face causing him to bin his bike.

A sticking throttle is dangerous, if you need to stop in an emergeny, your braking force will be less if the throttle is stuck open keeping power to the wheel.

Overall it sounds like your main concerns are bolting the thing back together.. everything has been marked as loose.

It won't take sherlock holmes to find your point 008.. something on the bike is loose enough for the tester to rattle around, it could interfer with the yokes / steering... check mudgaurd, front v piece, fairing panels, front cowl.

Buy some bolts and nuts.

Lastly.. your old brakeline was damaged becuase I assume it was free to move about and caught the wheel / chain tyre. (A properly mounted line won't have this problem as it is secure)

You installed a new line but just left it to move again? Did you learn nothing at all from runing the other line?

The brake doesn't work either... did you bleed it properly? Are the pistons sticking, take some time and remove the pads, pump the pistons out a bit and clean them up.

All of those points on your sheet are self explanatory so I don't see that any further discussion is needed.

Work through them all point by poitn and take your time and it should pass no worries.

I've locked this thread as it will just turn into a barrage of people wondering why you took it if you knew it would fail and didnt bolt it back together properly.. and that isnt productive for anyotone.

just follow the worksheet you have been given and it shold be alreet..hopefully you have learned rushing something just costs you more money..

As above, loose parts shouldn't be hard to identify, espeically ones that can interefer with the yokes et al.did you bolt yours panels on or do they move?

If you need help with a specific issue from that list just start up a new thread.

[vfrman]

The awesome thing about being a mod is I can post to locked threads! LOL.

I think we should take up a collection to get this bike fixed! I volunteer to turn the wrenches. I have always wanted to visit Scotland anyways.