Not charging, rectifier?

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by g1b50n » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:59 pm

The bike doesnt run long enough for me to take choke off so the choke is still on when i attemped to restart it after it cuts out. It then turns/cranks over but doesnt start. I havent tried it with the rectifier disconnected yet. And havent observed the voltages proper
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g1b50n wrote:To start it i put choke fully on, no throttle. Starts up first time on button. Runs for a few minutes with rectifier connected then cuts out, it doesnt seem to want start again after that. I have ran it without the rectifier yet to be hinest mate to check the voltage. Will do that tonight and let you know the results asap.
You need to explain better.

It doesn't seem to want to start again!?

Is still still with choke? How long do you leave it before it starts up again?

When it 'seems' not to want to start again is it cranking over ok but not starting?

Without a proper explanation of your problems its very difficult to imagine whats wrong with it
ly whilst trying to restart.

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by magg » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:33 pm

If it still cranks on the starter motor after it has stopped, it is not a battery problem, sounds like a no vacuum to tap fuel problem. I would be looking at fuel flow from the tap first and if that is ok then check the ignition.

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by g1b50n » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:37 pm

magg wrote:If it still cranks on the starter motor after it has stopped, it is not a battery problem, sounds like a no vacuum to tap fuel problem. I would be looking at fuel flow from the tap first and if that is ok then check the ignition.
Ill look for that then bud cheers, just theres no charging voltage when running with recifier lol.

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by magg » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:28 pm

But if the engine only runs for a minute and then stops how do you known there is no charging or is the engine stopping problem something new problem that has occurred after the charging problem.

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by g1b50n » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:38 pm

magg wrote:But if the engine only runs for a minute and then stops how do you known there is no charging or is the engine stopping problem something new problem that has occurred after the charging problem.
On idle the other night before all the problems started the battery voltage was 13.7v then the day after all of a sudden the voltage on idle was 12.8 and falling until it cut out.

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by magg » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:34 am

You need a running engine before trying to diagnose any electrical problem and as others have said a fully charged good battery will start the bike and run it for more time than you should need to check out the electrical system.

A flat/dud battery will not start the bike let alone cause it to stop after a minute. Disconnect the rect/reg to make sure it is not discharging the battery. The rect/reg is continually connected across the battery, ignition switch has no effect, if it is faulty it will start discharging the battery as soon as it is connected.

The battery voltage will fall slowly when the engine is running without a rect/reg but the voltage should remain above 12 volts, if not the battery is not fully charged or is a dud or there is an excessive electrical load somewhere on the bike that you need to find.

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by g1b50n » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:36 am

magg wrote:You need a running engine before trying to diagnose any electrical problem and as others have said a fully charged good battery will start the bike and run it for more time than you should need to check out the electrical system.

A flat/dud battery will not start the bike let alone cause it to stop after a minute. Disconnect the rect/reg to make sure it is not discharging the battery. The rect/reg is continually connected across the battery, ignition switch has no effect, if it is faulty it will start discharging the battery as soon as it is connected.

The battery voltage will fall slowly when the engine is running without a rect/reg but the voltage should remain above 12 volts, if not the battery is not fully charged or is a dud or there is an excessive electrical load somewhere on the bike that you need to find.
Ok cheers bud, i will let you know my findings asap, i didnt get to look at bike last night as the girlfriend wanted to see me lol

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by g1b50n » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:58 pm

g1b50n wrote:
magg wrote:You need a running engine before trying to diagnose any electrical problem and as others have said a fully charged good battery will start the bike and run it for more time than you should need to check out the electrical system.

A flat/dud battery will not start the bike let alone cause it to stop after a minute. Disconnect the rect/reg to make sure it is not discharging the battery. The rect/reg is continually connected across the battery, ignition switch has no effect, if it is faulty it will start discharging the battery as soon as it is connected.

The battery voltage will fall slowly when the engine is running without a rect/reg but the voltage should r Alright trouble, wuu2 tonight? emain above 12 volts, if not the battery is not fully charged o r is a dud or there is an excessive electrical load somewhere on the bike that you need to find.
Ok cheers bud, i will let you know my findings asap, i didnt get to look at bike last night as the girlfriend wanted to see me lol
,Alright ive just been thinking lol, when i was doing my fairings on the side the choke lever is on i knocked what i have now learnt to be the idle speed adjuster knob. I did turn anti-clockwise at the time and thought nothing of it as i wasnt 100% sure what it was lol, would this explain it cutting out slowly when idling on choke? Plesse help lol, i just thought on then n realised lol.

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by magg » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:17 pm

If the engine starts using the choke you should be able to keep it running by increasing the rpm using the throttle even if the idle adjustment is incorrect, then adjust the idle knob to get a stable idle at 1300-1500 rpm.

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Re: Not charging, rectifier?

Post by g1b50n » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:04 am

magg wrote:If the engine starts using the choke you should be able to keep it running by increasing the rpm using the throttle even if the idle adjustment is incorrect, then adjust the idle knob to get a stable idle at 1300-1500 rpm.
Alright mate i know the battery isnt charging still lol, but when i have it running on choke like i mentioned before the revs start to drop slowly till it dies, u can try to catch it on the throttle but no luck. Then if you start it again on choke it will do the same again, you touch the throttle to catch it when its cutting out and it just cuts out lol,

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